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Old 07-10-2008, 04:54 AM   #1
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Default Globalization of the Navy, an australian company is competing for new ships..

Find this baffling, the Navy is re engineering part of its fleet, and are developing littoral combat ships.. have been following this for some time, but today noticed on Pop Mechanics that an Australian company is competing with Lockheed Martin for the contract.. why do we even want to consider outsourcing this security need to a foreign country?? Nothing against Australia, but scratching my head.

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The U.S. Navy uses colors to describe where a ship is built to operate: Brown for rivers, blue for oceans and, recently, green for coastal, or littoral, waters. The Navy, traditionally focused on dominating oceans, does not have a vessel built to operate in green waters, so it is seeking a fast, shallow-keeled ship that can chase down enemies and dispatch helicopters with ease.

In 2002, the Navy solicited builders to design its Littoral Combat Ship. Australia-based Austal recently launched its contender, the 417-ft. Independence. Its trimaran hull provides a stable ride at high speeds and in rough waves.

The vessel is one of two the Navy is considering for the LCS—Lockheed Martin has already launched its monohull prototype, Freedom, and recently powered the ship's electrical systems. Both programs are over budget and behind schedule, but a winner may be announced by year's end.
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:54 AM   #2
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Personally I'd prefer to pay more and keep it built here - but if we refused to take bids from other companies, whether foreign or domestic, the Liberals here would be the first to pound the Bush administration for overpaying and choosing in non compete contracts.
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Personally I'd prefer to pay more and keep it built here - but if we refused to take bids from other companies, whether foreign or domestic, the Liberals here would be the first to pound the Bush administration for overpaying and choosing in non compete contracts.
Actually, that's not true. Liberals are more likely than conservatives to support programs that keep jobs here.
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Actually, that's not true. Liberals are more likely than conservatives to support programs that keep jobs here.
That's not what I meant. It's ABS - Anti Bush Syndrome - you guys will criticize anything that the government does under Bush.
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That's not what I meant. It's ABS - Anti Bush Syndrome - you guys will criticize anything that the government does under Bush.
I hear you on that one. Put me on that list. I'd do it just for spite. But I'm not a liberal. There's plenty of conservative types who are with me on this.

I'm also with you on keeping the military work here. It's not a matter of cost. We all know how the military loves to keep their costs down....It's more about trust and continuity of supply. What's to keep the Aussies from building stuff, selling them to us, and then raping us for replacement parts or shutting us off altogether if something unforseen develops? We should keep military production in-house. We'd have enough domestic competition and we need to keep our secrets close to the vest.
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That's not what I meant. It's ABS - Anti Bush Syndrome - you guys will criticize anything that the government does under Bush.
It is not this at all, it is PUSW... pro US worker..
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It is not this at all, it is PUSW... pro US worker..
I'd love to walk around your guys' houses and see if you really walk the walk on that. Maybe you do.
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The aussie's use lots of our equipment. So I guess they shouldn't be using our f-18 Hornets, or our F-111 Aardvark's since they didn't make either themselves. I'd much prefer to jeep everything in house (in the USA), but I don't think it wrong to seek bids & idea's from allied nations. When IED's were/are tearing apart our troops in Iraq, people were calling for the Isreali defense system, Trophy, to be utilized. By the logic being put forth here, we shouldn't even consider it since it's not "made in the USA". I think you consider everything, and anything, that makes sense. You shouldn't rule something out simply because we didn't make it. I think our making it or not, is a factor, just not the end all.
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The aussie's use lots of our equipment. So I guess they shouldn't be using our f-18 Hornets, or our F-111 Aardvark's since they didn't make either themselves.
Indeed. Although I work for the U.S. government, most of my salary for years has been paid for by the Aussies for doing their F/A-18 S/W. Insourcing, baby
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I'd love to walk around your guys' houses and see if you really walk the walk on that. Maybe you do.
I try to buy as much as I can from the US, as I believe in the US worker.. however it gets more and more difficult with each passing day.. I wonder what the future holds for grandchildren and great children... what restaurant or hotel will they be working in.
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