Leave No Doubt

I was thinking the same thing, plus this guy had 2 tours in Iraq under his belt. PTSD maybe? It's reportedly rampant among Iraq/Afghaistan war vets especially, almost epidemic according to Lisa Ling from NatGeo. Either way after 2 tours in Iraq I'd imagine visitors at the door in the early AM could unnerve him a bit. Of course that's exactly what every SWAT team wants to do, that's why they "attack" in the pre-dawn hours or just at dawn when people are most vulnerable and apt to be momentarily confused or disoriented. Imagine what that does to an Iraq vet? They knew it I'm sure.

Or maybe he simply saw or heard them drive up, grabbed his rifle just in case, and told his wife and children to hide. Either way that team knew exactly how he'd react and that he'd likely have his rifle in hand so they blew him away with 71 (?) shots. They not only wanted him dead for sure but they also massacred him up like he was Sonny in the Godfather.

Besides the fact law enforcement has become completely militarized and partly made up of private mercenaries, there's definitely more to this story and that team has some pretty powerful backing as well in order to keep getting away with half the bs they do.

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Leave No Doubt

The police are just small fry in the multi billion dollar Drug War Industry. Ron Paul's been against the Drug War from the beginning as has Dennis Kuchinich, Gary Johnson, and a few others. Actually more than a few politicians have either come out against the entire drug war or have at least acknowledged that it's an epic fail.

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Harry Boy

"ruth take the kids and hide under the bed"
"ok vinnie, why are you carrying your gun"
"somebodys at the door"
"oh"

America God Shed His Grace On Thee

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chicowalker

sounds like you and kddp in that thread about the proposed detention legislation

Which is it -- are you supposed to go down fighting with your gun or not?

sdaniels7114

What do you charge them with? Not shooting him in the leg? I'm not gonna ask a cop to carry a gun and then start second guessing him over making sure the suspect was out of commission. From their perspective this guy was a wanted drug dealer with an assault rifle. He wasn't just some guy who happened to be there, he was the target they'd been assigned.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished, even as far as firing the lot of them and civil charges may be appropriate too; but sending them to jail for being certain the guy was down will lead towards us having a whole lot less cops to count on.

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DarrylS

My issue is that 71 shots were fired, and 60 hit him.. that is problematic, and indicative of some folks loosing control.

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Drewski

Gross Negligence? 71 shots on one person?!? A little crazy if you ask me. At most it should have taken a tap to the head, or 4 to chest to put this guy out right?

As for your second point I don't count on cops myself. Why should I trust them more than anyone else? Cuz they have a badge and a shiny car that says "Protect and Serve"?? Yawn.... The cops I know on a personal basis are some of the most corrupt people I know (based on trivial things). Running their lights just to get through traffic (no emergency), tailgating cars to make them spend up only to pull them over. Openly joking about how they drink and drive and they know nothing will happen them. I'm sure there are good ones too obviously, but the ones I know on a personal basis don't scream "count on and trust me". On top of that the ones I have come across in a "business" sense have been no better. Seems to me they are all power hungry midgets who were picked on in HS, and being a cop allows them to "get back at em" (I'm looking at you, 5 foot nothing Statie troll with the puffed out chest who patrols 95 NB weekday mornings )

Anecdotes aside, just because they are cops doesn't give them carte blanche to do what they want, or instant trust from this citizen.

Harry Boy

Cops:
Neccessary Evil.

Nobody in law Enforcement or Government wants "Drugs Legalized" NOBODY..
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

This is a terrible thing to say "But I believe the same goes for the Cancer Cure ($$$$$$$$$$$)
There's Big Money In The Cancer Business

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Real World

There was. All you had to do was go to the link to find out.

At the very least, people should be fired for this. You can't just barge into an innocent man's home, and kill him by firing 71 shots his way, without there being some level of punishment. It's outright BS imo.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

PatriotsReign

Who knows what the truth is, but I've heard stories from people in the health industry about cancer cures being squashed. One guy told me a story about an invention years ago that used radio waves to cure cancer. It just never got used.

I agree with your theory.

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