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***Patters*** · 11-28-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

In the case of the blogs and this op ed, their people are clear about their POV, this of course is fundamentally different than people presenting themselves as 'objective' yet really pursuing an agenda in the background.

One is having an debate the other is dishonest propaganda.

Surely you recognize this.

I think it's a matter of perspective. I don't think hacking emails and then selectively releasing them without dates, on Russian server, and out of context is honest, but perhaps we have a difference of opinion there.

Real World · 11-28-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Oh, I wasn't referring exclusively to the MMGW in my above comments, and I apologize if it seems like I was. You wrote "PF13 seems to believe that the mmgw believers are a group of liars and thieves while the deniers are pure of heart." and I was just having some amusement at the fact that your posts in this forum show you are quite guilty of that which you see in PF13.

That you seem not to realize this only enhances the amusement.

Ignorance is bliss.

***Patters*** · 11-29-2011, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Oh, I wasn't referring exclusively to the MMGW in my above comments, and I apologize if it seems like I was. You wrote "PF13 seems to believe that the mmgw believers are a group of liars and thieves while the deniers are pure of heart." and I was just having some amusement at the fact that your posts in this forum show you are quite guilty of that which you see in PF13.

That you seem not to realize this only enhances the amusement.

I guess you missed the point of the thread, but that's to be expected.

The Brandon Five · 11-29-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Patters

Sort of difficult to respond since you're posting emails from 2006, so I have no idea exactly what they are referencing nor can find additional info on this either from deniers or believers. I think most people agree that 1950 to the present are five of the six warmest decades, which itself points to a hockey stick trend.

The hockey stick is the projected rise in temperatures, not the past. That is why it is important to show that the model used produces that result regardless of the input data.