IcyPatriot

Interesting bill from Rep. Ted Deutch (D-FL):

http://teddeutch.house.gov/UploadedF...CH_036_xml.pdf

patsfan13

Bye Bye First Amendment. When Politicians tell who and what people can contribute we are cooked. Not even the fig leaf of excluding contributions that are not from individuals.....


This of course was done so the largest contributors (Unions and Trial Lawyers) can fund their favorites....

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

Patters

Bad enough that Congress is bought, let the presidency be selected by some fairer system. Why should special interests on the left or right be accorded so much control? Make it easy for people to contribute via their tax forms, limit donations to under $100, and let people be able to choose the political party of their choice, and you might see the rise of a true third party.

chicowalker

While there's certainly an argument that spending = speech, the idea that this kind of law ends the first amendment is hyperbole.


Why would trial lawyers be exempt?

patsfan13

The Trial Lawyers technically is a not for profit org........

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

chicowalker

What are "The Trial Lawyers"?

Not even sure what you're talking about anymore. Law firms incorporate.

If you're claiming that they aren't technically corporations (b/c they're a PC or an LLP, etc.), that goes for a large % of what we consider corporations, which would mean that a large % of corporations also would be exempt.

patsfan13

The OP specified for profit corps this allows dome corps to contribute to spend $$$. This is not an accident.


From the OP:



Note the use of the term for-profit. This means not for profit corps could continue their political activities. as could 527c corps. The author of the bill only wants to restrict political speech from those her perceives as political opponents.



You reading skills could use a lot of help.


Here is the page for the Trial Lawyers and another link about their political contributions:

http://www.justice.org/cps/rde/xchg/...sl/default.htm

[/url]http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000065[/url]

Follow the money.

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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

Titus Pullo

LOL... This sounds like the desperate rationalization of a person who knows without a shadow of a doubt that the future of political "balance" for the RW in this country is utterly toast without bribes and gifts.

Only a con would pervert the first amendment to somehow pretend it means that purchasing power is "freedom of expression."

Titus Pullo

Of all people here, you really shouldn't be telling anyone this.

Unless a conservative is under investigation. Then pretend the money trail is irrelevant. LOL

chicowalker

What is a dome corp?


That's pretty funny coming from a guy who can barely read or write.

Especially given that your post didn't really address much of the post it supposedly was a response to and in no way illuminated what your're struggling to say.

The only real question here is whether your point is unintentionally wrong b/c you have no business knowledge or if it's intentionally wrong b/c you don't like trial attorneys.


Are you under the impression that only the big bad trial lawyers use 527cs?

Who are the other not for profit corps you're referring to?

What is to stop other corporations from using the same tactics / structures "The Trial Lawyers" employ?

This sounds like yet another issue you simply haven't thought out. Instead you read it on some righty blog and posted it here as fact.