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You mean most black families aren't like the Huckstables?...
The black people on TV don't look like black people.
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Yes, though I should have been more clear and referred to religious conservatives. At any rate, objecting to religious types influencing the political process is not the same as objecting to religious people or religion. I believe strongly in the separation of church and state, and don't support effort to make our nation officially Christian, display nativity scenes at courthouses, and so on. Those are political objections. Do I have anything against someone's devotion to God? No. Do I have anything against religion in general? No. But, when religion enters politics it often does more harm than good -- from the time that the Bible was used to defend slavery to the time it was used to argue against the women's vote to the time it was used to argue against mixed marriages to the time it is used to argue against gay rights. But, if some church wants to preach messages I disagree with, I respect their right, because I have the right to challenge them on both political and religious grounds.
Thank you for making the important distinction. I, myself, have disagreements with religious conservatives over political issues.
Unfortunately too many times general terms are used to lump all Christians and/or "Religious types" together. So again, thank you for making your point clearer.
Poor Christians! It's OK to dump on homosexuals because someone says Christians and religious types are stupid and insane (OK Patters said "wrongheaded"...whatever)
Poor Christians can't get a break in Amerika!
who said it was ok to dump on homosexuals? just pointing out when blanket comments are made 8 or 9 different times by the same people, they wouldnt much like if it was the other way around.
Patters has clarified his statement and I accept it.
why are you so bitter anyway? first you are calling all dads who choose to take responsibility for teaching their daughters about abstinance "Perverts", then you are going on and on complaining that some people are going to miss Tim Russert. The man was dead less than a day and you are spending all day watching MSNBC and complaining about it.
How about taking a look at your own heart, instead of attacking all the time.
I must be getting old...but there's a huge difference between a guy saying "wrongheaded" and another guy yelling "HOMO! PERVERT! DEVIANT!"
I mean...Lifer--sometimes you make good points, and a lot of times Christians do get treated badly. But to compare a guy saying that he thinks Evangelical Christians have wrong-headed beliefs is a little different than the above.
And I'll tell you--my aunt and uncle got into some weird Baptist thing where they read ancient latin and so forth, and my uncle told my grandmother, who'd been a christian all her life that she had to be saved, he couldn't bear the thought of her in Hell...she was beginning the decline into alzheimers at the time, but she remembered that...and for that stupidity, I'll freely say he's wrongheaded. I'll say a few other things, but Patters would yell at me...
well one day i had a bad cab ride and the driver was black. I guess that makes it ok to make general statements about black people, right?
your point is taken and again i brought it up not for just this thread, but a pattern from the same thread starter. I addressed it, he clarified it, and again, I accept it.