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Violence came in waves. Many demonstrators peace-saluted police and called through bullhorns: "This is a peaceful protest! This is a civilian movement!" But from the moment I arrived in Oakland at 10:15 p.m., I saw a visible minority spoiling for conflict.
As the protesters filtered away, I spoke with a group of tired cops covered in blue and orange paint—and that wasn't all, said one sergeant who wouldn't give his name. He said they'd also been pelted with glass and vinegar, and one officer claimed to have tasted urine in the mix.
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"They didn't have to force police into that situation," said Helen Walker, 46, a nurse from Albany. "It was totally provoked, and if I could have, I would have stopped those idiots from throwing paint."
Protesters threw turquoise and red paint at the riot officers. Some led the crowd in chanting, "This is why we call you pigs."
Others pleaded with agitators to be peaceful and return to the march; some protesters tried to fight with police and were clubbed and kicked in return.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
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Re: Confirmation that Oak OWS assaulted cops first
If you're going to cut and paste (ie, cherry pick), you should make it clear you're doing so -- unless you're intentionally trying to mislead people. Right after the first part you quoted comes this: "... Protesters had balked at what they saw as disproportionate policing: They'd been teargassed once already. But how to respond was a matter of intense debate in the crowd of about 1,000..."
That means the title of your thread is false.
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Originally Posted by patsfan13
...So much for cops assaulting peaceful protesters.
and so much for the violent protestors representing all of OWS
"..."You don't need to be splitting this ******* movement!" one man yelled at a guy holding a bullhorn who had been trying to reassure police of the group's peaceful motives. He was angry that the man with the megaphone had characterized a group of demonstrators as violent. "You don't have to be doing their ******* work for them!" he yelled.
No one appeared in control and the group was divided into two groups: the largely peaceful, and a small, visible, determined group of agitators..."
Re: Confirmation that Oak OWS assaulted cops first
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
From your cited article: He said they'd also been pelted with glass and vinegar, and one officer claimed to have tasted urine in the mix.
How would he know?
The mixture hit his face.... when it was thrown at him.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
Re: Confirmation that Oak OWS assaulted cops first
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Originally Posted by patsfan13
The mixture hit his face.... when it was thrown at him.
Why are yopu ignoring Chico's post?
Here's the thing. Protesters vs. police is never a good thing. They are protesting the Establishment. When the Establishment shows up to confront them with weapons of bodily destruction, the protesters will frequently react. That's what happens. In fascist states, the protesters are murdered en masse. Then their families are sent to prison or killed. In the US (at least recently), the worst that happens is what we saw in Oak. Most of the time, the police are disciplined enough to protect the demonstrators. In this case, the police escalated and reacted with too much force, IMO.
Your unwavering and silly defense of the police lets everyone know that you're a pro-Establishment, status quo guy who feels safe in a police state compared with others who see the demonstrators as representative of the majority of Americans who feel that the Establishment is criminal and abusive of their status and responsibility.
Have at it and keep digging, cherry-picking and rationalizing your bankrupt point of view.
Re: Confirmation that Oak OWS assaulted cops first
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Originally Posted by chicowalker
If you're going to cut and paste (ie, cherry pick), you should make it clear you're doing so -- unless you're intentionally trying to mislead people.
We are limited to 4 sentences by forum rules, so one has to edit the post to fit within the rules. This is why a link to the complete article was provided.
BTW the articles cite a group of 50 that started trouble previously at a different location, neither reporter witnessed what transpired directly.
Love the personal attack on me as usual from you.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
Re: Confirmation that Oak OWS assaulted cops first
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Originally Posted by patsfan13
We are limited to 4 sentences by forum rules, so one has to edit the post to fit within the rules. This is why a link to the complete article was provided....
and that's why you left out the very next sentence, which directly contradicts your thread title, huh? and why you didn't in any way indicated that you had left it out...
"...They'd been teargassed once already..."
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Originally Posted by patsfan13
...Love the personal attack on me as usual from you.
Where is there a "personal attack" on you, 13?
And even if there were one - which there wasn't -- given your personal attacks on me and others here, so what?
Re: Confirmation that Oak OWS assaulted cops first
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Originally Posted by patsfan13
We are limited to 4 sentences by forum rules, so one has to edit the post to fit within the rules. This is why a link to the complete article was provided.
BTW the articles cite a group of 50 that started trouble previously at a different location, neither reporter witnessed what transpired directly.
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Confirmation that Oak OWS assaulted cops first
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