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Real World · 06-15-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters

I think you missed my point. If JC Watts, a far right black Republican, considers supporting Obama it's ONLY because he believes that the Republican Party does not take blacks seriously. I have no idea what you are trying to say. Perhaps you're not familiar with Watts.

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He's a member of the republican party! If he felt repubs sucked for blacks, then why was/is he an R to begin with?

Real World · 06-15-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters

The number of blacks who see Republicans as being discriminatory or racist gets close to 100% when people like J.C. Watts and Colin Powell consider supporting Obama. So, you're saying that virtually every black person is a racist? To put it to an extreme, were Germans Jews unpatriotic for refusing to support Hitler? Were they racist? Were blacks racist when they opposed the Confederacy? People like you and BF really show how much trouble the Republican Party is in. I suppose the only kind of racism you understand is slavery and lynching. That reflects badly on your education, both religious and secular, IMO.

How about the number of blacks who are racist versus whites gets close to 100% when republicans like JC Watts & Colin Powell consider supporting a black democrat.

If Obama were white would those two support him? NOPE! Why didn't they support a white dem before this? Hmmm....that's really tough to figure out.

Real World · 06-15-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

Patters, here is the true test of whether racism exists in America today. I challenge anyone who is white to ask themselves "would I prefer to have been born white or black?" Of course, you have to be honest with yourself about it. You have to consider how it would feel to be followed around inside Macy's because the security team thought you looked suspicious or the cops in some wealthy town pull you over for God knows what reason.

And please be serious about your answer. I know I'm fortunate to have been born white and to have been born in this country.

WTF is that? That might be the most ignorant statement ever made in here. so being born black means you're inferior I guess. Afterall, who the F would want to be, is apparently how you feel. Some people are truly shameless.

PatsWSB47 · 06-15-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by a.paul

Musing aloud while I ponder having to start a fire in the woodstove tonight, while a week ago it was so hot as to be oppressive (global warming, I guess)....
How come the left leaners here are constantly able to literally call anyone to the right of them raciststs?

I think a lot of them work themselves into a discrimination lather....if I talk about it enough and support it enough, then I can not only identify with racism, I too become a victim of it by association. I feel their pain, so to speak. Now Ican have no guilt about the silver spoon I was born with
I too am a victim and can now point fingers and distance myself from the real white people.

Look deep inside youselves everyone.

Real World · 06-15-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters

Of course, a bigot would answer, "I'd rather be born white because black parents are lazier than white ones." That's sort of the attitude of BF, and it's rather striking how many of the righties defend each other.

For example, the rightie partisan RW actually respected BF's belief that employers should be allowed to discriminate by saying, "I don't completely agree with you, but I understand the general point." In the 1890s, anti-Italian sentiment was so strong in the south that more than 20 Italians were actually lynched. I suppose the righties would say, "Lynching is wrong, but it's perfectly okay to protect the rights of those who want to lynch to use other, less violent, methods." It's sort of scary, but luckily our demographics is slowly reaching the tipping point where racists will have to form their own party. (Or do they already have one?

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otis p. driftwood · 06-15-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Real World

WTF is that? That might be the most ignorant statement ever made in here. so being born black means you're inferior I guess. Afterall, who the F would want to be, is apparently how you feel. Some people are truly shameless.

But see, Patters would never call Reign a racist for that. But I'm willing to bet, if BF were to make that exact same post, he'd call him out on it.

Maybe it was just a long day--but this crap is especially stinky tonight.

PatriotsReign · 06-15-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

Nope. Everyone has an opportunity to get an education. Again, for every 5 kids of whatever color we spend $1M for them to do so from K-12. It's appalling and an insult to society that we spend that money and kids blow it off. And, unfortunately, more are from minorities. It's a shame but that's what's holding them back.

May I suggest you spend a day in a classroom in Roxbury and one in Dover before you make such statements. All children "should" get an equal education and our educational system should be set up so that MUST happen.

The problem is, the quality of our public schools is determined by the wealth of each town. There is no argument on this earth that can defend that inequality...but I'd bet you'll give it a shot.

otis p. driftwood · 06-15-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

May I suggest you spend a day in a classroom in Roxbury and one in Dover before you make such statements. All children "should" get an equal education and our educational system should be set up so that MUST happen.

The problem is, the quality of our public schools is determined by the wealth of each town. There is no argument on this earth that can defend that inequality...but I'd bet you'll give it a shot.

How do you explain the really good scores from small poor schools, like some founded in NYC or various catholic/religious schools?

Did you say you don't have kids? BF has a couple of kids and he's involved in their education.

I'm not saying you don't have any standing in the argument, just that he might have a little more practical experience than you?

PatriotsReign · 06-15-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by a.paul

Musing aloud while I ponder having to start a fire in the woodstove tonight, while a week ago it was so hot as to be oppressive (global warming, I guess)....
How come the left leaners here are constantly able to literally call anyone to the right of them raciststs?

You know what baffles me a paul? it's the fact that some people are able to rationalize racism, sexism, homophobia or whatever other stereotype they want to see in a group of people who aren't like them.

In my opinion, I can't believe some of the blatant racist remarks I've read in the last couple of days. I angers me, but of course I've seen it amongst my own friends and in other areas of my personal life.

My parents forbade the use of any racial slurs in their house from the first time I heard the "N" word. I think they both cried when hearing of Martin Luther King's death. Were we saints? Of course not, but they knew right from wrong and instilled that in us from a very early age.

I took my parents out for a father's day dinner and my dad told me he was voting for Obama. He said he told all his buddies at the Elks hall and he would not repeat the comments thrown at him. That is racism any way you slice it, no matter what. My father is 78 years old and is a very good American.

We ALL know right from wrong, yet we often say things that are rooted in anger & fear and find some way to justify it. This is not a case of left or right, it's a case of right and wrong. Prejudice is not a republican thing...there are plenty of people who wear the democrat label and still carry prejudice in their hearts.

No matter what, it is inexcuseable.

PatriotsReign · 06-15-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by a.paul

How do you explain the really good scores from small poor schools, like some founded in NYC or various catholic/religious schools?

Did you say you don't have kids? BF has a couple of kids and he's involved in their education.

I'm not saying you don't have any standing in the argument, just that he might have a little more practical experience than you?

Instead of answering that, can tell me why you always choose the exception when we should be discussing the rule?

There are exceptions to every rule.

Just tell me if it's fair that one school has all the best while the another barely operates with leaky roofs, poor ventilation and not enought books?