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Old 06-05-2008, 10:34 AM
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The guy is a crook........ and as far as associations go, he's way down on my list as damaging to BO. BO is a scumbag politician (just like the rest of them) who took money where he can get it. At least when he learned about the potential dubious sources, he gave the money away to charity.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no BO fan, and to me he still has to answer to Ayers, wright and all those other POS associations he fostered over the years. But as for Rezko, he kinda gets a pass from me.
I agree on most of what you say, but as far as Ayers goes that seems to be kind of a stretch.. it seems that they were acquaintances and had some common interests more than anything else.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:50 AM
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I agree on most of what you say, but as far as Ayers goes that seems to be kind of a stretch.. it seems that they were acquaintances and had some common interests more than anything else.
Yes.

The Ayers thing (unless there's something we don't know about) is a blind alley IMO.
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Treason for what exactly? No one was prosecuted for outing Plame cause she wasn't covert.
he was found guilty of obstructing justice in the investigation. Plame was covert, that came out in Fitzgerad's case. you honesly STILL think she was a 'glorified secretary'....one that was working on nuclear proliferation in Iran...? Yeah, they give those tasks to non-covert agents...


....oh man


we are at a loss.


Back to the question you seem to be dodging......
Will Obama pardon him if he wins, in your opinion?

and if he does, will you be as cool with it as scooter's commutation?

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Old 06-05-2008, 11:55 AM
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he was found guilty of obstructing justice in the investigation. Plame was covert, that came out in Fitzgerad's case. you honesly STILL think she was a 'glorified secretary'....one that was working on nuclear proliferation in Iran...? Yeah, they give those tasks to non-covert agents...


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Back to the question you seem to be dodging......
Will Obama pardon him if he wins, in your opinion?

and if he does, will you be as cool with it as scooter's commutation?

Well, you can't really accuse him of dodging the question since, in fairness you only asked me. And I wasn't dodging, I thought it was rhetorical.

He won't do it. So it's a non-issue.

And if he did do it, I wouldn't like it, but it's not something worth getting riled about either. All presidents pardon and commute questionable people. It's part of the power of the office, and I'm not about to start cutting yet more executive power, the office has been gutted enough as it is, so you just grit your teeth and take the good with the bad.
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from Bob Novak's article on McClellan's book:

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McClellan at the White House podium never knew the facts about the CIA leak, and his memoir reads as though he has tried to maintain his ignorance. He omits Armitage's slipping Mrs. Wilson's identity to The Washington Post's Bob Woodward weeks before he talked to me. He does not mention that Armitage turned himself in to the Justice Department even before Patrick Fitzgerald was named as special prosecutor.

McClellan writes that Rove told him this about his conversation with me after I called him to check Armitage's leak: "He (Novak) said he'd heard that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA. I told him I couldn't confirm it because I didn't know." Rove told me last week he never said that to McClellan. Under oath, Rove had testified he told me, "I heard that, too." Under oath, I testified that Rove said, "Oh, you know that, too."

McClellan writes, "I don't know" whether the leaker -- he does not specify Armitage -- committed a felony. He ignores that Fitzgerald's long, expensive investigation found no violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, if only because Plame was not covered. Nevertheless, McClellan calls the leak "wrong and harmful to national security" -- ignoring questions of whether Plame really was engaged in undercover operations and whether her cover long ago had been blown.

Since Novak is the reporter who 'outed' Plame and was an opponent of the Iraq war I'll guess he knows a lot more about it than you.

I would also ask why Fitz was even appointed since Armitage turned himself into the Justice dept before Fitz was made a special prosecutor.....
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Wow, you guys are back on the Plame crap? Sheesh...
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HD bought up Libby I shouldn't have responded, just read the Navak article, I get tired of the continuing bs about Plame...

Obama's 20 yr relationship with Rezko will be glossed over by the press this is irrelevant to the election.
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If Rezko was associated with McCain, this would be all over the news outlets.
There was GOP connections in that trial, on a national scale.
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There was GOP connections in that trial, on a national scale.
Was McCain involved?
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Was McCain involved?
His name wasn't mentioned in the article I read this morning. But some bigwig R that is way high up on the Republican Convention food chain was in it deep. Rove's name was also mentioned with Romney's as a partner to fire Patrick Fitgerald.
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