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Old 05-22-2008, 11:43 PM   #1
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US Postal Service saves the Earth and money by buying Ethanol fueled trucks that get worse mileage and cost more to fill up. That's some fine job there...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Skpw&refer=oil
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:28 AM   #2
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The experience shows how the U.S. push for crop-based fuels, already contributing to the highest rate of food inflation in 17 years, may not be achieving its goal of reducing gasoline consumption. Lawmakers are seeking caps on the use of biofuels after last year's 40 percent jump in world food prices, calling the U.S. policy flawed.

``Using food for fuel has created some unintended consequences: food shortages, the high price of livestock feed,'' said Senator John Cornyn, a Texas Republican. ``I think it's leading a lot of people to wonder whether our corn-based ethanol goals need to be adjusted.''

Stimulating Demand

Lost in the debate over the fuel's contribution to food scarcity is the possibility that the ethanol policy itself isn't working, said David Just, an associate professor of economics at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York. It may stimulate demand by making gas cheaper, he said, an argument supported by at least two U.S. government studies.

[B]The Postal Service bought the ethanol vehicles to meet alternative-fuel requirements. The vehicles' size and ethanol's lower energy content lowered mileage, the agency said. It takes 1.33 gallons of E85 (85 percent ethanol) and 1.03 gallons of E10 (10 percent ethanol) to travel the same distance as with one gallon of pure gasoline, the Department of Energy says.
Fukc me...this crap costs over a gallon of oil to make and you can't even drive as far. Which genius thought burning corn sugar was the way to go?
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Fukc me...this crap costs over a gallon of oil to make and you can't even drive as far. Which genius thought burning corn sugar was the way to go?
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This is a good thing if people actually start to put 2+2 together and quit the push for this silliness.
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You really didn't have to read beyond where they stated the explorers had bigger engines then the jeeps they replaced. Ah, and they needed bigger engines because...............
Our government shouldn't even be in the business of delivering 'mail'. I receive about 10% of important mail from the P.O, the rest is junk in which I do not want, and not sure if there's anyway of stopping it from being delivered. Deliver that 10% thru other means and cancel my service. The U.S. Mail Service will be obsolete soon enough, yet it will continue due to lobbyists and politicians who do not want to lose power.
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You really didn't have to read beyond where they stated the explorers had bigger engines then the jeeps they replaced. Ah, and they needed bigger engines because...............
Our government shouldn't even be in the business of delivering 'mail'. I receive about 10% of important mail from the P.O, the rest is junk in which I do not want, and not sure if there's anyway of stopping it from being delivered. Deliver that 10% thru other means and cancel my service. The U.S. Mail Service will be obsolete soon enough, yet it will continue due to lobbyists and politicians who do not want to lose power.
Mail carriers should use hybrids--gas/electric, able to charge the battery through braking etc, because of course just plugging in a straight electric car leads to more electricity demand, which burns yet more diesel and or coal.

Knee jerk reactions are seldom viable, and that's what the Postal Service was doing.
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You really didn't have to read beyond where they stated the explorers had bigger engines then the jeeps they replaced. Ah, and they needed bigger engines because...............
Our government shouldn't even be in the business of delivering 'mail'. I receive about 10% of important mail from the P.O, the rest is junk in which I do not want, and not sure if there's anyway of stopping it from being delivered. Deliver that 10% thru other means and cancel my service. The U.S. Mail Service will be obsolete soon enough, yet it will continue due to lobbyists and politicians who do not want to lose power.
The US postal service pays for itself through postage. It's an independent agency. That junk mail you got was paid for by someone who bought a stamp. It wasn't subsidized by tax money.
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Who's bright idea was it to put the food supply into less efficient fuel?
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Who's bright idea was it to put the food supply into less efficient fuel?
Funny you should ask..........

Obama actually voted for it (I know you can't believe he actually cast a ballot, I was suprized too!)

And McCain was one of 26 who did not.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00213
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