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Old 05-23-2008, 07:20 AM   #11
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Not sure we are all that far away from this, with the cost of the Iraq war and this dependence on oil.. something needs to change.. cannot imagine what it will cost this winter to heat our houses.. an anecdotal comment the guy across the street filled up with propane, $7.00 per gallon..

The other day I was standing in a 10,000 Sq. ft. house and was scratching my head thinking.. WTF????
Heating oil around $4.50/gal now.
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:26 AM   #12
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Yesterday I saw a picture of the oil executives with their right hands raised as they were testifying in front of congress. My first thought was of the tobacco industry testifying to tell the truth.
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Yesterday I saw a picture of the oil executives with their right hands raised as they were testifying in front of congress. My first thought was of the tobacco industry testifying to tell the truth.
Better one: the whole damn crew of them...congresspersons and oil execs...ending of Animal Farm...all the pigs in the house yelling "2 legs good 4 legs bad".

They're all the same, and they're all guilty.
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for who? the middle and lower class?
For the government.
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Yesterday I saw a picture of the oil executives with their right hands raised as they were testifying in front of congress. My first thought was of the tobacco industry testifying to tell the truth.
Do you also look at the congressmen, who have refused to let us drill for our own oil, and build new efficient refineries, with the same cynicism?
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Do you also look at the congressmen, who have refused to let us drill for our own oil, and build new efficient refineries, with the same cynicism?
That goes without saying. Its just that the ultimate "I swear to God" I'm telling the truth scenario, is the tobacco people testifying that nicotine is not addictive.
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For the government.
isn't being in debt the same as bankrupty? or how much debt do you have to accumulate? and what makes you think when push comes to shove that a gov't would actually pay the debt if someone came collecting?
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May 21, 2008 - 13:02 ET From the Glen Beck radio show.


STU: Ladies and gentlemen, we now recognize from the great state of really stupid people or voter fraud or something.

GLENN: I don't think that's necessary.

STU: Mr. Representative Glenn Beck.

GLENN: Representative?

STU: Representative senator, the representative senator Glenn Beck.

GLENN: Can't we get this right?

STU: Here's the pudgy guy.

GLENN: Enough. We brought together the heads of big oil. See that big head over there? Yeah, he runs Shell. That one? That runs ExxonMobil. Mr. Big oil, we're here to talk about the high price of gasoline. How could it have possibly gotten this high?

Let me tell you what we've done here in congress. We told you that drilling in ANWR is off limits. We told you that drilling off the coast of Florida and California is off limits. We told you, Mr. Big oil, that there wouldn't be any new leases for drilling in the Gulf while China and Venezuela and even Cuba pursued these leases and have just signed 100-year leases on the oil in the Gulf of Mexico. We here in congress have promised, as all three presidential candidates have also promised, to introduce and pass in the next term a cap and trade legislation bill that will increase the price of gasoline according to the EPA by an additional $1.50. Some people say it could be as high as $5 additional per gallon. Order, order. We have said that we're shutting down oil fields in Colorado. We won't let you develop shale oil fields in several Western states. And yesterday we passed legislation that would let us sue OPEC with the full understanding that they'll never retaliate. Yes. We have allowed environmental attorneys to sue you big oil fiends for future possible destruction of Alaskan Eskimo village which legal experts believe is the same strategy used to bring down big tobacco. We're especially proud of our recent action to protect the polar bear and their habitat which just happens to be where the future oil deposits happen to be located. We told you that you're making too much money and that we're looking at seizing any money that we consider windfall profits. Yes. We have allowed you to drill in some very small areas in Alaska while simultaneously creating very generous environmental laws which have tied up the very production we authorize through years of litigation after you spent the money on buying and setting up equipment. We told you through our policies that we would not allow you to build a new refinery in over 30 years. In fact, this great country, under our tutelage, has even reduced the number of operational refineries by half since 1982. Order, order, order. We have even told your potential competitors in the nuclear and hydroelectric industries that we would send the environmental lawyers after them if they even dared think about building a new plant or a new dam. We've refused to fund or allow the deployment of coal-to-oil technology which has been around since the 1930s. We've told you that you have to make different blends of gasoline, let states like California dictate what unique gasoline blends you have to make for them. We will not reduce our federal gasoline tax. We won't even consider reducing it for the summer months. So Mr. Big oil, tell me why exactly are gas prices so high? Order, order!
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