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***IcyPatriot*** · 05-20-2008, 10:19 PM

Like I've been saying all along ... Barack ... Barack ... Barack ...

Seriously ... nice to see this election go national now so the nation can and hopefully will discuss our most pressing problems.

cupofjoe1962 · 05-20-2008, 11:28 PM

I did not know the race is over !

Hillary can still win the popular vote.
How could the superdelagates support Obama if Hillary wins the popular vote?

Is it possible for a superdelate to change his support from Obama to
Clinton if she wins the popular vote?

I thought the democrats only cared about the popular vote.

Stokes · 05-20-2008, 11:35 PM

Obama does not yet have enough delegates to be the nominee, this is premature. The argument he's making is that he has a majority of the pledged delegates, not that he's gotten to the magic number of 2026. There should be enough "undecided" superdelegates that will come out for him though to give him that number just after the last primary, June 3rd.

Wildo7 · 05-21-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cupofjoe1962

I did not know the race is over !

Hillary can still win the popular vote.
How could the superdelagates support Obama if Hillary wins the popular vote?

Is it possible for a superdelate to change his support from Obama to
Clinton if she wins the popular vote?

I thought the democrats only cared about the popular vote.

Maybe because Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot on Florida or Michigan. If it was it wouldn't even be close. This thing has been over for a while now.

Not to mention that Hillary's numbers are inflated by "Operation chaos." Don't let the facts get in the way of your right wing bullshit though.

cupofjoe1962 · 05-21-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

Maybe because Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot on Florida or Michigan. If it was it wouldn't even be close. This thing has been over for a while now.

Not to mention that Hillary's numbers are inflated by "Operation chaos." Don't let the facts get in the way of your right wing bullshit though.

What about the popular vote?
I think Hillary should stay the course !
Why are you calling it right wing BS ?
I bet you cried about the popular vote in 2000.

Stokes · 05-21-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

Maybe because Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot on Florida or Michigan. If it was it wouldn't even be close. This thing has been over for a while now.

Not to mention that Hillary's numbers are inflated by "Operation chaos." Don't let the facts get in the way of your right wing bullshit though.

It probably still would be close, Hillary was very strong in Florida both from the latino vote and all the NY transplants there, and would have been strong in Michigan too as she was in Ohio and Penn.

Also for all of Rush's bluster operation chaos had little effect on the outcome of any of the primaries, and really zero effect on the delegate count. Don't let THOSE facts get in the way of a good rant though!

It is over though, and it really has been for a few months. Sure is fun to watch Hillary scratch and claw her way to the end though.

cupofjoe1962 · 05-21-2008, 12:19 AM

Sure it is over.... but what about the popular vote?

If Hillary hangs around and hurts Obama, she could run again
in 2012 if he loses to McCain.

Wildo7 · 05-21-2008, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cupofjoe1962

What about the popular vote?
I think Hillary should stay the course !
Why are you calling it right wing BS ?
I bet you cried about the popular vote in 2000.

Did you misread my post or what? If Obama had been on the ballot in Michigan and Florida, and Rush hadn't messed the dem primaries, Obama would have the popular vote easy.

You probably already know this though.....

Wildo7 · 05-21-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Stokes

It probably still would be close, Hillary was very strong in Florida both from the latino vote and all the NY transplants there, and would have been strong in Michigan too as she was in Ohio and Penn.

Also for all of Rush's bluster operation chaos had little effect on the outcome of any of the primaries, and really zero effect on the delegate count. Don't let THOSE facts get in the way of a good rant though!

It is over though, and it really has been for a few months. Sure is fun to watch Hillary scratch and claw her way to the end though.

Hillary would have been strong in Florida and Michigan and still lost the popular vote. Really no getting around it.

Now you're switching arguments. He may have had "zero" effect on the delegate count, but Limbaugh affected the popular vote and there's no denying it, and that's what we're talking about.

The fact that despite Rush and Michigan and Florida, Obama is still poised to win, says all it needs to.

cupofjoe1962 · 05-21-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

Hillary would have been strong in Florida and Michigan and still lost the popular vote. Really no getting around it.

Have all 50 states had their election?
Funny how Obama got on the ballot in Guam and Puerto Rico but he
forgot to get on the ballot in Florida and Michigan.

Then again... he has been to all 57 states.