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US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
May 16 10:49 AM US/Eastern
'Illegal Occupation': US Soldier Refuses To Deploy To Iraq
Matthis Chiroux is the kind of young American US military recruiters love.
"I was from a poor, white family from the south, and I did badly in school," the now 24-year-old told AFP.
"I was 'filet mignon' for recruiters. They started phoning me when I was in 10th grade," or around 16 years old, he added.
Chiroux joined the US army straight out of high school nearly six years ago, and worked his way up from private to sergeant.
He served in Afghanistan, Germany, Japan, and the Philippines and was due to be deployed next month in Iraq.
On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal war.
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US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war'
May 16 10:49 AM US/Eastern
'Illegal Occupation': US Soldier Refuses To Deploy To Iraq
Matthis Chiroux is the kind of young American US military recruiters love.
"I was from a poor, white family from the south, and I did badly in school," the now 24-year-old told AFP.
"I was 'filet mignon' for recruiters. They started phoning me when I was in 10th grade," or around 16 years old, he added.
Chiroux joined the US army straight out of high school nearly six years ago, and worked his way up from private to sergeant.
He served in Afghanistan, Germany, Japan, and the Philippines and was due to be deployed next month in Iraq.
On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal war.
Just for the record, I did pretty well in HS and I had recruiters calling me when I was in the 10th-11th grade too. I think some HS's have deals where they sell their student list or something, plus if you have friends that join (delayed entry program, DEP), they'll give your info too. I had two friends do that.
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Matthis Chiroux had it all planned out after he graduated from Auburn High School in 2002.
First, he would join the U.S. Army. Then, he would use his G.I. Bill benefits to enroll in college to pursue his dream of becoming a lawyer. After college, Matthis planned to become a public defender and dabble in politics.
And the 24-year-old Army sergeant’s dream was on track when he was honorably discharged last September. He wasted no time moving to New York City to attend college as a journalism and pre-law major.
But less than six months after relocating, the Army came calling again. This time, they needed him to deploy to Iraq.
On Thursday, Matthis, joined by members of the nonprofit organization Iraq Veterans Against the War, publicly announced in Washington, D.C., his plans to ignore the Army’s orders to report to Iraq on June 15.
It's not favorable for either party here. The bottom line is he signed up.
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It's not favorable for either party here. The bottom line is he signed up.
Problem is he was discharged. I know there are re-call rules, but I don't really know what they are. But if he was discharged last year and had already started college and so forth (after he joined for the GI Bill so he could go to school) I do kinda have a problem with that.
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It's not favorable for either party here. The bottom line is he signed up.
According to the Uniform Code Of Military Justice, i believe that an order that is deemed to be unlawful or illegal or constitutionally unlawful need not be adhered to. Problem however is in proving it.
I believe that applies in most civilized nations.
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If I was a soldier in Iraq I wouldn't want him in my "fox hole" the hell with him, give him a job handing out Obama bumper stickers and opening car doors for Princess Michelle.
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If I was a soldier in Iraq I wouldn't want him in my "fox hole" the hell with him, give him a job handing out Obama bumper stickers and opening car doors for Princess Michelle.
since he was a photog, and not infantry....I believe he would be taking pictures of your Fox Hole......
According to the Uniform Code Of Military Justice, i believe that an order that is deemed to be unlawful or illegal or constitutionally unlawful need not be adhered to. Problem however is in proving it.
I believe that applies in most civilized nations.
Sure thing NEM.
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BTW the kid is responsible for his behavior, whether or not he claims he was seduced by the recruiter.. if you don't want to take the risk of going to war, do not sign up for the military.. it is not all that complicated.
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