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Old 05-16-2008, 07:26 AM   #1
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President George Bush lavished anniversary praise on Israel yesterday, as Palestinians commemorated the "Nakba" or "catastrophe" when 700,000 were forced from or fled their homes 60 years ago.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:45 AM   #2
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It is highly offensive to me that Bush, and certain Israelis, consider Jews "the chosen people".
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F-ck the Palestinian Scum F-cking Rat Bastards, I remember like it was yesterday those scummy old screaming Palestinian women dressed in their black sheets dancing in the streets while 3000 innocent human beings died in two hours on the morning of 9/11, F-ck Them and their donkeys.

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It is highly offensive to me that Bush, and certain Israelis, consider Jews "the chosen people".
Does anyone actually believe that the Jews are the "Chosen People"?

Chosen by who? Or WHAT? The so-called "Chosen People" have been dumped on since they were even a people! No other group has been through worse luck and events that were so brutal in the history of civilization (except for Bills fans, of course).

"Chosen People", huh? Is that anything like "Luck of the Irish"?
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Does anyone actually believe that the Jews are the "Chosen People"?

Chosen by who? Or WHAT? The so-called "Chosen People" have been dumped on since they were even a people! No other group has been through worse luck and events that were so brutal in the history of civilization (except for Bills fans, of course).

"Chosen People", huh? Is that anything like "Luck of the Irish"?
all people of faith believe that they are chosen...or the only ones who will be 'saved'...or get 60 virgins....


its dumb

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Old 05-16-2008, 07:02 PM   #6
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Does anyone actually believe that the Jews are the "Chosen People"?

Chosen by who? Or WHAT? The so-called "Chosen People" have been dumped on since they were even a people! No other group has been through worse luck and events that were so brutal in the history of civilization (except for Bills fans, of course).

"Chosen People", huh? Is that anything like "Luck of the Irish"?
As Tevye put it, "once in a while, could you maybe choose someone else?"

The standard explanation I grew up with (and it is one of the, if not the standard rabbinical explanation,) is that God chose the Jews to receive the Torah and the revelation of the whole one-God thing.... not to win particular historical victories, such as oh I dunno, against Rome or the Nazis (although I dare say we do outnumber both Roman centurions and Nazi officialdom today.)

That interpretation -- that Jews were chosen to receive their own culture's literature and religion -- would be indisputable, for any other such constituted group.

However, in the case of Judaism, two large groupings of self-perceived "successor" religions, essentially claim to have become the true elect, even while one of these groupings still uses "chosen people" to designate those who are not "saved."

When I was growing up, my rabbi told me this story:

God had a tablet of the law, and he offered it to the Germans. The Germans said, "what's in it?" God said, "Thou shalt not kill." The Germans say "yah, uh, have a nice day."

Next God offers his tablet of the law to the French. The French say "what's in it?" God says "Thou shalt not commit adultery." The Frenchman laughs and walks away. God's beginning to wonder whether any people will willfully accept a curb on their own behavior, and he spots this Jewish guy, Moses.

He offers the tablet of the law to Moses. Moses says "what's it cost?" God says "It's free." Moses says "I'll take two!"

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PFnV--that reminded me of the scene from History of the World, Part One, where Moses comes down off the mountain..."I bring you these fifteen" *crash*.."uh oh...these ten! Ten commandments for all to obey!"
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LOL yeah, good scene
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It is highly offensive to me that Bush, and certain Israelis, consider Jews "the chosen people".
Once again religion crossing over into politics. How can an elected leader even suggest such a thing. I'm all for protection of Israel ... but that they are the chosen ones ... makes me want to throw up in my mouth.
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Yeah, whatever the status of the statement in a religious context, in a political context it's pretty damn offensive.
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