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otis p. driftwood · 05-15-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

Simple: polygamy involves more than two people and is illegal. Marriage is a right. It is not a privilege. If this country is going to have marriage give certain rights to married couples that non-married couples don't get, then denying certain people's ability to attain those rights because the people don't agree with their lifestyle is discriminatory and wrong. "Civil Union" is a term used to say that these people are second-class and not worthy of the "marriage" label. It's none of the "people's" business who marries who and why. If this is truly a free country, this constitutional amendment won't pass.

How do you figure marriage is a right?

Wildo7 · 05-15-2008, 06:15 PM

Oh and apparently FTW can't read properly, here's your "liberal judges legislating from the bench:

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In its 4-3 ruling, the Republican-dominated high court struck down state laws against same-sex marriage and said domestic partnerships that provide many of the rights and benefits of matrimony are not enough.

"legislating from the bench" is a hilarious term that's been used by both sides since the dawn of the judiciary. It's actually laughable that people still throw around that term and others are ignorant enough to believe it. All it means is "they made a ruling I don't agree with."

People made the same ridiculous arguments against interracial marriage and now they look like the bigots they are. I wonder which side of history some of you will be on.

wistahpatsfan · 05-15-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by a.paul

How do you figure marriage is a right?

Marriage is a right in the same way that we as adults (don't say it...I know what you're thinking) can - or should beable to - do whatever we want to do with another adult as long as there is mutual consent and no one else gets hurt. That's freedom. That's our right. Marriage is included.

Wildo7 · 05-15-2008, 06:17 PM

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How do you figure marriage is a right?

How do you figure it's not. Ever heard of a heterosexual couple being denied a marriage license?

***BelichickFan*** · 05-15-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

Simple: polygamy involves more than two people

If all involved are consenting . . . why not ?

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

and is illegal.

So if we made being gay illegal then you'd be good with that ?

wistahpatsfan · 05-15-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

Since when is marriage a right ? It's a priviledge that the people don't want to bestow on gays. Why isn't polygamy a right ? Marriage is about society bestowing this on people whose lifestyle society approves of and, by a clear majority, that's not the case with gays.

Who the hell says that? Where did you get your "definition" of what marriage is? Can you even begin to cite a reference?...and please spare us the "word of God" for now, OK?

Wildo7 · 05-15-2008, 06:18 PM

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So you're defining the term marraige?

I can't wait to marry my dad, and avoid all those disgusting inheritence taxes.

Incest is against the law, but that actually explains a lot. So you're equating homosexuals with inbreeding? Yeah, there's no bigotry here

***BelichickFan*** · 05-15-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

Who the hell says that? Where did you get your "definition" of what marriage is? Can you even begin to cite a reference?...and please spare us the "word of God" for now, OK?

According to polls, it's clearly the will of the American people that marriage is between one man and one woman.

Regarding your God thing - chill, I'm agnositc; remember ?

otis p. driftwood · 05-15-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

How do you figure it's not. Ever heard of a heterosexual couple being denied a marriage license?

Never paid any attention, honestly. I just don't remember seeing it in the Constitution anywhere...it's one of those things...it's been around forever, but just because it's a "custom" does that make it a "right"?

And don't read me wrong. I'm not a believer in marriage, gay, straight, vegetable, mineral...as far as I'm concerned it's just one more way the government is involved in our lives.

Wildo7 · 05-15-2008, 06:23 PM

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If all involved are consenting . . . why not ?

So if we made being gay illegal then you'd be good with that ?

You can't make it illegal, because it's unconstitutional. Look up Texas v. Lawrence. The point is that if you give certain rights to two people who form an agreement with each other consensually, you have to allow every adult the ability to attain those rights. It's not about approving or disapproving a "lifestyle," the law cannot discriminate when it comes to gender, so it can't say "a man and a women" only. Again, what goddamn business is it of yours anyway? If the majority didn't approve of interracial marriages should it be allowed to ban it?