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Old 04-13-2008, 12:42 PM   #21
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ok here it is , i found a similar story :

Minneapolis Muslim taxi drivers can't refuse fares.

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Starting May 11, any taxi driver who refuses to transport riders carrying alcohol at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport will be suspended for 30 days. And after a second offense, their license would be revoked for two years.
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http://www.narbosa.com/2007/04/minne...vers-cant.html


How about taxi drivers wont pick up gay couples anymore , coming soon in your city !

It is simple , you don't like taking gay people picture , open an E-business and stay home.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:51 PM   #22
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I am not for homosexual rights but to me its a simple case of settled law. The photographer can not discriminate against them based on their sexual preference. Maybe its the lawyer in me over riding my political beliefs but that’s just the way the law is.
And thats fine. It just seems to beg out for a tweak to the law.

Pretty comedic that we are both coming at the issue from different sides and settling on different sides.

Where would the law stand on a catholic church refusing to perform a marriage ceremony for atheists? Do different laws apply in that case?
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And thats fine. It just seems to beg out for a tweak to the law.

Pretty comedic that we are both coming at the issue from different sides and settling on different sides.

Where would the law stand on a catholic church refusing to perform a marriage ceremony for atheists? Do different laws apply in that case?
IMO, church would have the right to refuse. Separtion of Church and State.
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ok here it is , i found a similar story :

Minneapolis Muslim taxi drivers can't refuse fares.



Full story:
http://www.narbosa.com/2007/04/minne...vers-cant.html


How about taxi drivers wont pick up gay couples anymore , coming soon in your city !

It is simple , you don't like taking gay people picture , open an E-business and stay home.
A photographer--an artist--is not the same as a taxi driver.
A taxi driver has to be licensed by the city etc etc.
A photographer just takes pictures. There are other photographers.
It's not only apples and oranges, it's apples and something that's not even a fruit.
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I am not for homosexual rights but to me its a simple case of settled law. The photographer can not discriminate against them based on their sexual preference. Maybe its the lawyer in me over riding my political beliefs but that’s just the way the law is.
Why not? The photographer is an individual. There are other photographers in the the phone book.

I'm just looking for someone to explain to me why a person can be forced by the "the state" to do something they don't want to do, when there are other options for the people getting "unioned".

What happened to the photographer's first amendment rights in this?
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Why not? The photographer is an individual. There are other photographers in the the phone book.

I'm just looking for someone to explain to me why a person can be forced by the "the state" to do something they don't want to do, when there are other options for the people getting "unioned".

What happened to the photographer's first amendment rights in this?
how did the photographer get involved anyways?

were they assigned or did they get hired?
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how did the photographer get involved anyways?

were they assigned or did they get hired?

My Bro in law is a pro photographer, has a business in Minn.. they come to him asking him to do jobs.. he is quiet about it, but will not do gay weddings.. this is a terrific marketing opportunity for him, but he refuses..
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Why not? The photographer is an individual. There are other photographers in the the phone book.

I'm just looking for someone to explain to me why a person can be forced by the "the state" to do something they don't want to do, when there are other options for the people getting "unioned".

What happened to the photographer's first amendment rights in this?
Could the photographer refuse to take pictures of a Hispanic wedding because she felt "uncomfortable" around them? Certainly there must be other photographers who would do the Hispanic wedding so its not like they would be damaged in any way. Of course it would be wrong under the eyes of the law. Legally, as a same sex couple, we are talking about the same standing under the statute of the law. Because she is accepting compensation for her services she is under the eyes of the law running a business and as such can not discrimate.
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Could the photographer refuse to take pictures of a Hispanic wedding because she felt "uncomfortable" around them? Certainly there must be other photographers who would do the Hispanic wedding so its not like they would be damaged in any way. Of course it would be wrong under the eyes of the law. Legally, as a same sex couple, we are talking about the same standing under the statute of the law. Because she is accepting compensation for her services she is under the eyes of the law running a business and as such can not discrimate.

That makes no sense. The company that designed my company's website has a policy that includes "no hate" among other things. So if I were a neo-nazi, I could sue them for not designing a site for me based on those beliefs?
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Went to google. This is interesting.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...-6600-for.html

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The plaintiff, Vanessa Willock (pictured) is currently an EEO Compliance Representative with the Office of Equal Opportunity where she investigates claims of discrimination and sexual harassment. She is also a member of the Diversity Committee at University of New Mexico.
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