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Wildo7 · 04-04-2008, 02:04 AM

I'd say this about sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvVn...eature=related

***IcyPatriot*** · 04-04-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

I'd say this about sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvVn...eature=related

Does it make you feel better about yourself?

I found it rather obnoxious, rude and otherwise racist myself.

Fogbuster · 04-04-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

I'd say this about sums it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvVn...eature=related

Except you know this guy's schtick was not true. Men routinely go around "cruising" to have sex with other men, or, worse yet, boys. They do it in public parks, schools, colleges, at sporting events, anywhere men and boys are to be found. This is the whole thing about the "gay" priests in the RC Church: adult men seducing and abusing young boys. It has cost the Church hundreds of millions of dollars, and it cost a popular Cardinal in Boston his chance to possibly be the first American Pope.

But it makes no difference whatsoever if the man seducing young boys is wearing a priest's collar or if he is your "friendly" neighbor or your teacher or a stranger in the park. Men seducing children for sex -- be it with boys OR girls -- should be punishable by death or permanent banishment. Ask the guys in prison where child molesters stand. Destroying children's lives is a capital crime. History has always viewed it that way, and nothing has changed.

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Wildo7 · 04-04-2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by F.B.N.

Does it make you feel better about yourself?

I found it rather obnoxious, rude and otherwise racist myself.

please enlighten me as to where the racism is in that clip.

Wildo7 · 04-04-2008, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Except you know this guy's schtick was not true. Men routinely go around "cruising" to have sex with other men, or, worse yet, boys. They do it in public parks, schools, colleges, at sporting events, anywhere men and boys are to be found. This is the whole thing about the "gay" priests in the RC Church: adult men seducing and abusing young boys. It has cost the Church hundreds of millions of dollars, and it cost a popular Cardinal in Boston his chance to possibly be the first American Pope.

But it makes no difference whatsoever if the man seducing young boys is wearing a priest's collar or if he is your "friendly" neighbor or your teacher or a stranger in the park. Men seducing children for sex -- be it with boys OR girls -- should be punishable by death or permanent banishment. Ask the guys in prison where child molesters stand. Destroying children's lives is a capital crime. History has always viewed it that way, and nothing has changed.

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Everything you just said applies to heterosexuals also. Your talking about pedophiles not homosexuals or heterosexuals.

***IcyPatriot*** · 04-04-2008, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

please enlighten me as to where the racism is in that clip.

He is hating on gays ... that's racism.

http://www.adl.org/hate-patrol/racism.asp

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Racism has existed throughout human history. It may be defined as the hatred of one person by another -- or the belief that another person is less than human -- because of skin color, language, customs, place of birth or any factor that supposedly reveals the basic nature of that person. It has influenced wars, slavery, the formation of nations, and legal codes.

This forum is mind boggling. We have several members here who posts stuff and say stuff without knowing what it is they post and say. Why would you need to be enlightened on racism by me? I would think you would take the time to know what it is yourself and then perhaps you would not have to defend yourself from the indefensable. Don't give me it's a comedy routine crap either ... that's hollow. He's using the characterisitcs of a certain group of people to make others laugh and feel better about themselves ... at the expense of gays in this instance. God help me should I need to belittle gays to feel better about myself. Where is it documented that gays are less human than others?

I need a break from this place ....
Educating is not what I come here to do.

Look up racism and then defend that the Youtube clip is not racism.
The only way you can defend that man is to redefine racism.
The mods have to put up with this crap everyday ... God bless them.

Fogbuster · 04-04-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

Everything you just said applies to heterosexuals also. Your talking about pedophiles not homosexuals or heterosexuals.

I said in my first post: "whether boys OR girls", so I am not giving opposite-sex predators any passes, either.

The crime of same-sex predation, however, regardless of whether it is classified as "pedophilia" or seducing an 80-year old man, is not diminished. Same-sex acting out is wrong, and enabling it will only lead to disastrous results. Sodom, Gomorrah, the falls of Greece and Rome, as well as the declines of many/most civilizations traces their origins to misused and abused sexual acting out. Once the sense of sanctity of life is lost, it is almost impossible to get it back.

A lot of suffering must be experienced and felt before people realize what they did wrong, and determine to never do it again. The historically harsh prohibitions against same-sex relations have not been an accident; people had learned the hard way how precious life is. Behavior that would abuse this sanctity cannot be tolerated. A civilization can never be truly great if it is not truly good.

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wistahpatsfan · 04-04-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by F.B.N.

He is hating on gays ... that's racism.

http://www.adl.org/hate-patrol/racism.asp

This forum is mind boggling. We have several members here who posts stuff and say stuff without knowing what it is they post and say. Why would you need to be enlightened on racism by me? I would think you would take the time to know what it is yourself and then perhaps you would not have to defend yourself from the indefensable. Don't give me it's a comedy routine crap either ... that's hollow. He's using the characterisitcs of a certain group of people to make others laugh and feel better about themselves ... at the expense of gays in this instance. God help me should I need to belittle gays to feel better about myself. Where is it documented that gays are less human than others?

I need a break from this place ....
Educating is not what I come here to do.

Look up racism and then defend that the Youtube clip is not racism.
The only way you can defend that man is to redefine racism.
The mods have to put up with this crap everyday ... God bless them.

"Gay" is not a race. If I was gay, I'd be offended by this guy, though. But I wouldn't let it bother me for very long.

wistahpatsfan · 04-04-2008, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Except you know this guy's schtick was not true. Men routinely go around "cruising" to have sex with other men, or, worse yet, boys. They do it in public parks, schools, colleges, at sporting events, anywhere men and boys are to be found. This is the whole thing about the "gay" priests in the RC Church: adult men seducing and abusing young boys. It has cost the Church hundreds of millions of dollars, and it cost a popular Cardinal in Boston his chance to possibly be the first American Pope.

But it makes no difference whatsoever if the man seducing young boys is wearing a priest's collar or if he is your "friendly" neighbor or your teacher or a stranger in the park. Men seducing children for sex -- be it with boys OR girls -- should be punishable by death or permanent banishment. Ask the guys in prison where child molesters stand. Destroying children's lives is a capital crime. History has always viewed it that way, and nothing has changed.

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The HRCC needs to change the rule about priests and celebacy back to allowing them to marry. Priests would be much healthier mentall if they could get laid regularly....but come to think of it, getting married would have the opposite effect....never mind..

Fogbuster · 04-04-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

The HRCC needs to change the rule about priests and celebacy back to allowing them to marry. Priests would be much healthier mentall if they could get laid regularly....but come to think of it, getting married would have the opposite effect....never mind..

You've got a sense of humor, Wistah; I'll give you that.

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But you do bring up a very valid point: priests should marry. Until today it was the greatest sacrifice to live a celibate life. Not only RC priests and nuns, but also Buddhist priests and nuns do not marry. (Anyone know that??) To sacrifice married life, the natural state of matured original humans before the Fall, is no longer necessary because the time has come for all people, including priests and nuns, to receive God's blessing to marry and create families. This is Father and Mother Moon's greatest achievement. The Blessed Family under God is what God and humankind have both longed for until now, and it is ready.

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