Will Hillary or Obama Be Afraid To Confront Terrorsim like Bill and His Predecessors? - New England Patriots Forums

***IcyPatriot*** · 04-03-2008, 09:42 AM

In August of 1998, bombings at the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania killed 224 people. Osama bin Laden is again blamed.

In one of the worst cases of terrorism in the air, 270 people were killed when Pan Am 103 (a Boeing 747) exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland, on a flight from London to New York in December 1988.

In December 1995 a car bomb detonaed at a US military headquaters in Riyadh, killing 5 American service personnel.

In Saudi Arabia in June 1996, an attack on the US military complex at Khobar Towers killed 19 Americans. Members of a Saudi militant group were indicted for the attack.

In June 1985, Shiite Muslim gunmen seized a TWA passenger jet, forcing it to Beirut. They demanded the release of 700 Arabs held by Israel.

A US navy diver was killed and 39 Americans were held until their release a month later after Syrian mediation.

In October of that year, a disabled American Jewish man, Leon Klinghoffer, was killed by Palestinian militants were had seized the Italian cruise liner Achille Lauro.

One year earlier, in September 1984, a car bomb at US embassy annex in east Beirut, killed 16 and injured the ambassador.

In December 1983, Shiite extremists set off car bombs in front of the US and French embassies in Kuwait City, killing five people and wounding 86.

In October of that year, Shiite suicide bombers blew up the French military headquarters and a US marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 marines and 58 French paratroopers.

In April 1983, suicide bombers blew up the US embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans.

***DarrylS*** · 04-03-2008, 09:45 AM

I know you did not just remember all this, should you put a source?? Or are you different??

Always remember one thing, in the summer of '01 our intelligence picked up information of an impending attack and nothing was done..

***IcyPatriot*** · 04-03-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GJAJ15

I know you did not just remember all this, should you put a source?? Or are you different??

You are correct ... my bad.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/eye/wtc.htm

Also, when we can see the unclassified documents pertaining to that information you will be proved correct.
Until then ... it is merely conjecture ... nothing more.

***Patters*** · 04-03-2008, 09:54 AM

Actually, I think they'll be far braver. The fearful way of confronting terrorism is doing what Bush is doing, waging war, trying to stamp it out. The braver way of confronting terrorism is to undermine terrorists organizations by believing we can win the hearts and minds of the public and by using divide and conquer political strategies to marginalize the extremists among the extremists. It takes a lot more courage to use a multi-prong strategy, especially when the thirst for blood is so strong even here in the United States.

***IcyPatriot*** · 04-03-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Patters

Actually, I think they'll be far braver. The fearful way of confronting terrorism is doing what Bush is doing, waging war, trying to stamp it out. The braver way of confronting terrorism is to undermine terrorists organizations by believing we can win the hearts and minds of the public and by using divide and conquer political strategies to marginalize the extremists among the extremists. It takes a lot more courage to use a multi-prong strategy, especially when the thirst for blood is so strong even here in the United States.

If Obama confronts terrorism publicly as well as privately ... using every resource available to him then he will be one of the greatest Presidents we have ever had ... and I will be glad to say I was wrong of my opinion of him.
We'll perhaps find out in the future.

Fogbuster · 04-03-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GJAJ15

Always remember one thing, in the summer of '01 our intelligence picked up information of an impending attack and nothing was done..

.... because the Clinton White House had effectively weakened America's intelligence gathering capacity to an all-time low. Morale at the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI were at historically low points, with resignations and retirements at all-time highs.

So, thanks to the Clintons, we got 9/11.

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***DarrylS*** · 04-03-2008, 11:24 AM

By predecessors you are undeifying Ronald Reagan who was pres from 1980 to 1988 he did not respond either all that much.. during his adm there was a whold bunch of stuff going on..

Fogbuster · 04-03-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GJAJ15

By predecessors you are undeifying Ronald Reagan who was pres from 1980 to 1988 he did not respond either all that much.. during his adm there was a whold bunch of stuff going on..

... yeah, like draining the fight out of the Soviets.

Duh.

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***DarrylS*** · 04-03-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

.... because the Clinton White House had effectively weakened America's intelligence gathering capacity to an all-time low. Morale at the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI were at historically low points, with resignations and retirements at all-time highs.
So, thanks to the Clintons, we got 9/11.
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Do you have a reliable quote on any of this, until you do it is all Right Wing Bullcrap.. Bill is an easy target, but they were warned and did nothing.. oh forgot George took a vacation. Nice that you can vindicate GWB so easily, at least I contend they all share in the responsibility along with Reagan who did not respond to a lot of terrorists attacks that took place in the 80's.

***DarrylS*** · 04-03-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

... yeah, like draining the fight out of the Soviets.

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But he did not respond to the Terrorist attacks in the Mideast.. that was kindof what this thread was about.. hijack time.