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I honestly don't care what happens down there. South America is a 3rd world. None of the leaders on either side are a prize. Saw this though this morning.
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Seized laptop shows Chavez's rebel ties
By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press Writer
Wed Mar 5, 5:23 PM ET
BOGOTA, Colombia - Files in a laptop computer seized from the wreckage of a Colombian rebel camp in Ecuador offer new insights into Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's desire to undermine Colombia's U.S.-allied government.
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In a document dated Feb. 9, Marquez passes along Chavez's thanks for a $150,000 gift when he was imprisoned from 1992-94 for leading a failed coup — and indicates Chavez's desire to smear Uribe.
In it, Marquez says Venezuela wants documentation of damage by Colombia's military to "the civilian population, also images of bombardments in the jungle and its devastation — to use as a denunciation before the world."
In a Feb. 8 letter, Marquez discusses Chavez's plan to try to persuade leading Latin American nations to help get the FARC removed from lists of international terror groups.
I have no issues with Colombia going into Ecuador to raid a terrorist camp. If Ecuador isn't going to do ***** about it, and Colombians are suffering, then Uribe has the right to protect his people. That doesn't mean Uribe is some saint, but his obligation is to his people. Chavez clearly is up to no good when it comes to FARC. He should stay out of it if his intentions aren't in the best interest of Colombia. FARC is a terrorist organization.
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What are you lying about now??? It is already established here that Chavez has supported FARC both morally and financially. Why does Chavez send Venezuelan troops to the border of Colombia if he does not support FARC??? Colombia attacked FARC leaders in Ecuador, not Venezuela.
Hugo Chavez is a proto-communist, just as Castro was when he took over Cuba in 1959. Only later did his true colors come out. Chavez is exactly the same. He is bad, bad news to the world.
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Please provide a link or proof of this financial and moral support of FARC by Chavez. Columbia illegally violated Ecuador's sovereignty by bombing in their country and killing Ecuadorian citizens (including assassinating Reyes). Please provide one shred of proof that Chavez is a "proto-communist" or that he has undermined the democratic process in Venezuela in any way. Again, just because you make this stuff up doesn't make it true.
In the mean time, here are a few interesting tid bits about your favorite country, Columbia:
colombia has the highest murder rate of labor organizers in the world.
these murders are often carried out by right-wing paramilitaries closely aligned with the colombian military themselves.
what is worse is that US companies are linked to them too:
Yeah Chave is just the salt of the Earth, the nicest communist of all time, if only every leader could be as great as hugo and his 'progressive' government..../s
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While Chavez is not one of the correspondents, his sentiments are conveyed in numerous messages exchanged by the rebels.
Venezuela contends the texts are lies and fabrications.
But do they prove that Venezuela was actually financing the FARC's bid to overthrow a democratically elected government? That's not clear.
I'm sure the Columbian government is a very reliable source on this issue. And if true, how is this different from Uribe's support of right wing paramilitary terrorist groups?
Yeah Chave is just the salt of the Earth, the nicest communist of all time, if only every leader could be as great as hugo and his 'progressive' government..../s
Hugo Chavez: Castro's Mini-Me. by Peter Brookes ... Chavez is rumored to be supporting the FARC, letting it use the Colombian-Venezuelan border area to ... www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed040505a.cfm - 27k
Guerrilla Nation
The prominent FARC leader Olga Marin, for example, spoke on the floor of Venezuela's National Assembly in the summer of 2000, praising Hugo Chavez as a hero ... http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...5/177yckaw.asp
Comandante Chavez's Friends
Hugo Chavez supports Saddam Hussein and terrorism. ... he unequivocally stated that the Chavez government will not refer to the FARC Colombian terrorists as ... http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...2/346jorji.asp
Can Chávez free FARC hostages? | csmonitor.com
6 Sep 2007 ... Venezuela's leftist leader Hugo Chávez met with pro-US Colombian president Álvaro ... the FARC has agreed to meet with Chávez in Caracas, ... www.csmonitor.com/2007/0906/p01s01-woam.html - 72k -
chavez calls bush the devil
A few days before the bombing, the government of Colombia had complained that Hugo Chavez was supporting the Marxist FARC terrorists and their revolution in ... http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2144
Colombia: FARC Vows To Protect Hugo Chavez
FARC Vows To Protect Hugo Chavez. February 28, 2006: FARC has announced that it would go to the aid of Venezuela if the United States attacked Venezuela. ... http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/colo.../20060228.aspx
BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Chavez in Farc raid 'war' warning
Hugo Chavez warns Colombia a strike against Farc rebels inside Venezuela like that in Ecuador could start a war.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7273413.stm - 51k -
GOP Vixen: Hugo Chavez's FARC farce
Hugo's FARC farce has got it all. I write about it today for Pajamas Media:. "Autocrat, totalitarian, Bolivarian reactionary. Now Hugo Chavez aims to add ...
gopvixen.blogs.com/gop_vixen/2007/12/hugo-chavezs-fa.html
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Is Chavez admitting an alliance with FARC?
The juxtaposition of events in Colombia and Venezuela give a compelling indication that Hugo Chavez has allied himself with FARC, the terrorist rebels just ...
hotair.com/archives/2008/03/02/is-chavez-admitting-an-alliance-with-farc/
I suppose your next retort will be that Google is "a tool of the CIA"??
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Colombia: The Real Destabilizing Force in South America
by Carlos Martinez
In surveying US press coverage of the recent tensions between Colombia, Ecuador, and Venezuela, one might come to the conclusion that Colombia has become the victim of the wrath of its evil next door neighbor, Hugo Chavez. Once again, the media spin machine has been turned against Venezuela, bypassing a contextual analysis of the situation for a simplistic story line. With headlines such as, “Chavez Picks a New Fight” (Business Week March 4, 2008) the story perpetuates the US government’s claims that Venezuela is a destabilizing force in the region while ignoring the alarming actions perpetrated by the Colombian government.
While Chavez has certainly made it easy for international attention to be focused on his actions, the lack of coverage on the response of other South American presidents is disconcerting. The most egregious example of this blind spot is with Ecuador itself, the country whose territory was trespassed in Colombia’s attacks. The protests raised by Ecuadoran President Rafael Correa have been sorely underreported in comparison to Chavez’s response, potentially leaving one with the impression that Ecuador does not consider Colombia’s actions to be of major concern.
Nor is it being acknowledged that this is not the first time Ecuador has suffered the negative consequences of Colombia’s war on “narco-terrorism” as articulated through Plan Colombia. For years the northern region of Ecuador has been subject to tremendous contamination of legal crops, animals, and whole communities as a result of aerial herbicide spraying of coca crops in Colombia.
A statement published by White House spokesperson Gordon Johndroe maintains that Venezuela is simply overreacting to a legitimate operation. “This is an odd reaction by Venezuela to Colombia’s efforts against the FARC, a terrorist organization that continues to hold Colombians, Americans and others hostage.”
A quick review of responses from other countries would in fact show that the US government’s assessment is deeply flawed and out of step with international opinion. President of Chile, Michelle Bachelet, proclaimed, “A situation of this nature undoubtedly warrants an explanation from Colombia to the people of Ecuador, the President of Ecuador and the rest of the region.” The governments of Paraguay, Peru, and Argentina have all released similar statements of disapproval with Colombia’s actions.
[QUOTE=Wildo7;827911]Please provide a link or proof of this financial and moral support of FARC by Chavez. Columbia illegally violated Ecuador's sovereignty by bombing in their country and killing Ecuadorian citizens (including assassinating Reyes). Please provide one shred of proof that Chavez is a "proto-communist" or that he has undermined the democratic process in Venezuela in any way. Again, just because you make this stuff up doesn't make it true.
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Please stop posting links from communist websites, and posing that stuff is non-fiction, If you are going to post a link, make from at least a semi-relable news organization, hell I'll even let you link the NY Times. Chavez has the same elections as Stalin and Castro did.
FARC is responcible for the murder of numerous DEA agents, please do not insult thier widow's by claiming that they are anything else by drug dealing murders.
I could really care less what happens between Colombia and Venezuela, actually I could, I wish a long protected war between the two, which will drain Venezuela's finances, and Chaves will have to drop his oil prices to raise more revenue.
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