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Old 08-04-2011, 06:40 PM   #1
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So, Harry, 13 and all of you who've supported Chris Christie and wished that he'd run for president - I now understand what you see in him.

New Jersey’s governor Chris Christie has been known to spread a conservative agenda across the state. But a week ago he surprised both his supporters and his opponents when he defended his appointment of Muslim-American lawyer Sohail Mohammed to the state’s superior court. Talking Points Memo’s Josh Marshall flagged the gruff gov’s tirade against bigotry in his blog today.

“It’s just unnecessary to be accusing this guy of things just because of his religious background,” Chrstie said at a press conference last week.

When asked by a reporter about the threat of Sharia laws, Christie called the complaints “crap.” “Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all, it’s crazy!” he said at the press conference. “The guy is an American citizen!,” he yelled. “Sharia Law business is just crap.” Watch the show for yourself above.


New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie: “This Sharia Law Business Is Crap” - COLORLINES
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:11 PM   #2
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I respect a politician who makes decisions based on the issue.

I have not agreed with every stance taken by Scott Brown, but . I feel he makes his decisions based on the issue.

Martha Coakley... was a rubber stamp "LEFT" vs RIGHT VOTE
in favor of the LEFT.

Lets face it... the left and right are not correct 100% of the time.
You need to decide based on the issue. Too many base their decisons
on thier parties side of the fence.
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So, Harry, 13 and all of you who've supported Chris Christie and wished that he'd run for president - I now understand what you see in him.
Here's another response to someone who questioned why he sent his kids to parochial school....

Voter to Chris Christie: Do your kids go to public school? Christie to voter: None of your business « Hot Air

Sometimes a politician has a moment when they grab the reins and show leadership. Think of Reagan when he grabbed the microphone in the 1980 debate which was supposed to be between him and George H. W. Bush until all the other candidates showed up. Reagan grabbed the microphone and yelled " I 'm paying for this microphone Mr. Green ( it was Breen but whatever)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO2_49TycdE
He showed leadership in contrast to what was perceived as a weak President Carter.
Pawlenty had his opportunity when he called Romney's health care ObamaRomneycare in a TV interview but backed down when in a debate with Romney. He showed a lack of 'stones' and it will hurt him long term.

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I respect a politician who makes decisions based on the issue.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I do, too.

I just wonder how people like Harry and 13 feel about one of their heroes going against their personal belief that Sharia Law is a real threat here and their belief that our government should do everything they can to prevent the possibility.

I mean, how can it be a possibility, much less a threat, when someone so well-respected and admired like Chris Christie says, in no uncertain terms, that the fears about creeping Sharia laws in The USA is crap?
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I do, too.

I just wonder how people like Harry and 13 feel about one of their heroes going against their personal belief that Sharia Law is a real threat here and their belief that our government should do everything they can to prevent the possibility.

I mean, how can it be a possibility, much less a threat, when someone so well-respected and admired like Chris Christie says, in no uncertain terms, that the fears about creeping Sharia laws in The USA is crap?
Unfortunately, what we know about politicians in this country are colored by the media and we don't get to see much more than sound-bites.

From what the media shows of this guy makes me think Christie is a dick. Seems like he will never be "smoothe" enough to be presidential material regardless of his politics. He's the governor of NJ and I could care less what he says right now. If he becomes a Senator or Congressman, that's another story. He happens to be right on this issue, though. He's wrong when he tells a reporter that where his kids go to school is "none of their business". Hey, numbskull! If you want privacy, stay out of politics!
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Unfortunately, what we know about politicians in this country are colored by the media and we don't get to see much more than sound-bites.

From what the media shows of this guy makes me think Christie is a dick. Seems like he will never be "smoothe" enough to be presidential material regardless of his politics. He's the governor of NJ and I could care less what he says right now. If he becomes a Senator or Congressman, that's another story. He happens to be right on this issue, though. He's wrong when he tells a reporter that where his kids go to school is "none of their business". Hey, numbskull! If you want privacy, stay out of politics!
I prefer those who have served in an executive office before (i.e. Governors > Senators > Representative).
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I guess it's a nice moment for the rest of us to see Christie employing his well-known brashness in support of something not uniformly d1cky. Now we get to see what you on the right like so much about your twits constantly shouting and bullying and simultaneously being ever wronger with each outburst.

Since this guy shouted and bullied and was right for once, it's fun to see what you guys see in your regularly appearing and collapsing rightie messiahs. You like it that they'll yell a point of view and grab headlines with a heartfelt soundbite you believe is the truth.

Stylistically speaking, this evidently speaks to all of us now. We're all sick of the other point of view. In this particular case Christie shouted and bullied for a decent reason.

Usually not so much.

Yeah that's "leadership..."

But on the other hand...

Yeah, we might be in much better shape if Obama said "clean bill, on my desk, by July 15, or I go all fourteenth amendment. And send a black helicopter for Norquist..."
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So, Harry, 13 and all of you who've supported Chris Christie and wished that he'd run for president - I now understand what you see in him.

New Jersey’s governor Chris Christie has been known to spread a conservative agenda across the state. But a week ago he surprised both his supporters and his opponents when he defended his appointment of Muslim-American lawyer Sohail Mohammed to the state’s superior court. Talking Points Memo’s Josh Marshall flagged the gruff gov’s tirade against bigotry in his blog today.

“It’s just unnecessary to be accusing this guy of things just because of his religious background,” Chrstie said at a press conference last week.

When asked by a reporter about the threat of Sharia laws, Christie called the complaints “crap.” “Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all, it’s crazy!” he said at the press conference. “The guy is an American citizen!,” he yelled. “Sharia Law business is just crap.” Watch the show for yourself above.


New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie: “This Sharia Law Business Is Crap” - COLORLINES
Like you, I'd vote for Christie in a heart-beat. I love politicians who don't fall into typical "hard-line" partisanship, don't you?

Seems like a good, rational man with a conscience doesn't he?
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Like you, I'd vote for Christie in a heart-beat. I love politicians who don't fall into typical "hard-line" partisanship, don't you?

Seems like a good, rational man with a conscience doesn't he?
Christie is hard-line partisanship, but even hard-line partisans occasionally get something right.

His stand on the Sharia law is pretty much the only good thing Christie did. Recently, he came under fire for trying to defund a nationally recognized program (that involves police, prosecutors, doctors, and therapists) that aids sexually abused children. He lost that battle and actually had to hold two press conferences to try to rationalize his behavior. Also, his budget cuts have resulted in skyrocketing crime in poor areas of New Jersey

Newark Shootings, Camden Burglaries Make Crime Christie

Christie is also accused of misusing state funds and is blocking attempts to investigate his use of state helicopters.

"Shootings in Newark surged 43 percent after New Jersey’s largest municipality fired 162 police officers in November. Camden burglaries rose 65 percent after the state’s poorest city shed half its force in January."
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Christie is hard-line partisanship, but even hard-line partisans occasionally get something right.

His stand on the Sharia law is pretty much the only good thing Christie did. Recently, he came under fire for trying to defund a nationally recognized program (that involves police, prosecutors, doctors, and therapists) that aids sexually abused children. He lost that battle and actually had to hold two press conferences to try to rationalize his behavior. Also, his budget cuts have resulted in skyrocketing crime in poor areas of New Jersey

Newark Shootings, Camden Burglaries Make Crime Christie

Christie is also accused of misusing state funds and is blocking attempts to investigate his use of state helicopters.

"Shootings in Newark surged 43 percent after New Jersey’s largest municipality fired 162 police officers in November. Camden burglaries rose 65 percent after the state’s poorest city shed half its force in January."
Patters, what people fail to recognize is that crime levels have nothing to do with the number of police officers an area can/should employ. The only factor determining funding for ANYTHING is "Revenue".

We are now entering the age of balanced budgets. Moving forward on all fronts (federal, state, city, town and county) we will not be able to deficit spend. It's not a choice, it's what we must do.

Get used to it. It's simple common sense.
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