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The two graphs are truly scary and can't be wished away. The Slate article opens with the following:
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Here's one way to express how catastrophically screwed the U.S. government's finances are: If the entire U.S budget were cut to zero, effective immediately—the military, all entitlements, the electricity bill for the Capitol—there still wouldn't be enough money to cover the payments on old debt that come due every day.
Real World and Patsfan13 have agreed with this article's premise in the past.
Anyone who doesn't now is actively engaging in denial.
And, no, military spending cuts are not going to save the day.
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Re: Two graphs showing RW and PF13 are right: We running out of money
If you try to extract too much revenue you hurt the economy and reduce the revenue the Treasury takes in . The best way to generate revenue is to grow the economy not strangle it with excessive regulation and government spending and excessive taxes on the revenue and job producers.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
Re: Two graphs showing RW and PF13 are right: We running out of money
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If you try to extract too much revenue you hurt the economy and reduce the revenue the Treasury takes in . The best way to generate revenue is to grow the economy not strangle it with excessive regulation and government spending and excessive taxes on the revenue and job producers.
Revenues as % of GDP appear to be lower than the 18-20% range, suggesting that maybe we have gone too low.
I think we need to do both. You need to stop the bleeding and give the patient a couple of pints (of plasma, not Guiness).
Re: Two graphs showing RW and PF13 are right: We running out of money
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Revenues as % of GDP appear to be lower than the 18-20% range, suggesting that maybe we have gone too low.
I think we need to do both. You need to stop the bleeding and give the patient a couple of pints (of plasma, not Guiness).
Well the rates haven't been changed directly. What has happened is that incomes especially in the upper brackets have been reduced, so the decline of Revenue as a % of GDP is a direct reflection of that in the absence of changes in the tax rates. So addition taxes will drive the % even lower. That is the point.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
Re: Two graphs showing RW and PF13 are right: We running out of money
We're taxed enough. What we need to do is take an axe to some of the needless subsidies corporations get, as well as eliminate alot of the deductions found throughout the tax base. Combine that with a simplified code, restructuring of free trade agreements, the elimination of a lot of foreign aide, a 20% slash in defense spending (do we really need to be all over the world like we are?), the deportation of red ink illegals, and an end to the government buying people a hoverround, and giving out free cell phones, and we'll be in better shape moving forward. It's really not that complicated imo.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
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"People say, 'What will you do if you don't play football?' Why would I even think of doing anything else? What would I do instead of run out in front of 80,000 people and command 52 guys and be around guys I consider brothers and be one of the real gladiators? Why would I ever want to do anything else? It's so hard to think of anything that would match what I do: Fly to the moon? Jump out of planes? Bungee-jump off cliffs? None of that s--- matters to me. I want to play this game I love, be with my wife and son, and enjoy life." - Tom Brady
The two graphs are truly scary and can't be wished away. The Slate article opens with the following:Real World and Patsfan13 have agreed with this article's premise in the past.
Anyone who doesn't now is actively engaging in denial.
And, no, military spending cuts are not going to save the day.
Those Bush and Reagan tax cuts for the wealthy continue to haunt us to this day.