Real World

Wow, you mean a bomb went off somewhere in what looked like a certain terrorist attack, and people thought it might be muslims? No way... My point is that certain people in here really want this guy to have killed in the name of christianity. If it ends up that such is not the case, some of you will be disappointed. That's messed up imo. Assuming a terrorist attack was muslim/christian related, and hoping a terrorist attack is muslim/christian related, are two different things. This reminds me of the shooting of that congresswoman in Arizona where some people were just as hopefull that the culprit was religiously or politically driven. I guess that's the world we live in today.

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Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Wolfpack

+1. These people in here are not even trying to hide their glee at the fact that such a thing happened and it was (gasp!) a white guy who did it!

chicowalker

Some of us? Personally, I don't much care what his motivations were.

I think your point is equally applicable to some folks in here -- that's my point. If you believe there are people here who want it to be driven by christianity, while nobody wanted it to be driven by Islam but were simply assuming that to be the case, I don't think there's any basis underlying your distinction.

chicowalker

right... wolfie just making more **** up. Lots of people were full of "glee" about the attacks.

way to confirm RW's point about people ignoring the tragedies themselves and instead trying to fit it into some skewed worldview.

Harry Boy

Liberals all will be masturbating in the street if this guy says "He Did It For Jesus" they will never let us forget it.

JESUS SAVES

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Wolfpack

Satan gets the rebound and scores!

DarrylS

This is very scary shyt.. paranoia strikes very deep.. into your heart it will creep..

Mindful of some extreme conspiracy sites that advocate for the overthrow of the US by use of force... next time they did bring their guns.

Going to an island where the ruling party had a summer camp, to destroy the future of the labor party and killing 85 children is beyond comprehension..

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/wo...er=rss&emc=rss

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PatsFanInVa

Okay. Fact checky time and annoying editor time.

Yes, smart phones are annoying, but no, there is no such word as "gitty." It's "giddy." That's why your smart phone accused us all of being fifty.

The shooter is also silly with his stats. Nazism led to the deaths of 6-12 million? Just including the non combatants purposefully murdered without involvement in the war you're looking at about 11-12 million. Nazism led to the deaths of countless millions of others counting the world's bloodiest war evah, which can be laid on no doorstep other than that of Nazi Germany. There is no conceivable "alternate narrative" for that one.

But both these points are just me being persnickety. They're irrelevant, except to the point that he's conflating Islam as a religion with any adherent of Islam, for 1400 years. It's pretty much the equivalent of laying everything from the later days of the Roman Empire to Nazi Germany on Christianity's account. Either both opinions make sense or neither do. I vote neither. And I make this point to paranoid relatives of mine who point to hundreds of years of excesses committed by Christians, just as quickly as I make this point against detractors of Islam.

And you'll note that he also posts to neo-nazi sites - evidently, his viewpoint of that particular ideology has "evolved."

Finally, to the substantive point about the "giddy," "Fifty," or "Gitty" people mentioned, who the OP of that comment constructs from whole cloth:

The history on this board -- as elsewhere -- was the same as the narrative for good ol' Timmy McVeigh, the nice Christian-raised, Irish-descended, American-born boy who murdered a few hundred in Ok city: First came the rightists, who were "fifty," "gitty," or "giddy" about the prospect that bad Muslims did it. Then came the truth.

Then, I would imagine, came the complaints that those who had not reflexively blamed Islam were "fifty," "gitty," or "giddy."

Nobody's giddy. This is just proof of the cartoon nature of the bizarro world that so many people believe we live in. This cartoon world is not reality. There is no cheat sheet. Reality is complex. People and events in it are complex. The ones you think are simple proofs of the "bad guy" being "bad" are complex. Same goes for the guy you think can't possibly be the "bad guy." Lesson: the short-cuts don't work. Their religion or complexion or eye color are not proof of their guilt.

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Real World

ahahahahahaha, another spelling corrector on the internet. LOLOLOL...what tools some people are. Another 3,000 word post that reminds "me" of how smart "I" am in 3, 2, 1....

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

jcdavey

i agree, any terrorist is bat**** crazy.....

crazy comes in all forms

although usually serial killers are white lol