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Old 07-25-2011, 03:13 PM   #101
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I'm surprised at the number of people in their teens and early twenties at the island camp, which is still described for "young people". SOURCE: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/wo...land.html?_r=2
How would you describe people in their teens and early twenties? Old people? Middle aged people?

The article you cite mentions three people out of the 600 or 700 people there. Two were campers in their very early twenties and one was a member of parliment who was 27.

From this you get "surprised at the number?"

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Facebook seems to have changed the page of the shooter, to make him look like a Christian: SOURCE: Who Added "Christian" and "Conservative" to Norway Shooter's Facebook Page Yesterday? - Atlas Shrugs Different screen shots show things being changed.
Gee, I wonder who the mysterious "Vivian" could be? And why is Atlas Shrugged the only one to mention this grave discrepancy?

You are aware that I've already covered the attempted spin more than 24 hours ago, aren't you?

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Although some of the right wing blogs and websites are beginning to portray him as somewhat sympathetic - maybe even brave.

But ponder if you will – even the perpetration of the most extreme violence can be made to seem a rational act. The decision to bomb Dresden was taken by officers of the Crown, sanctioned by a prime minister, and carried out in good faith by brave, sincere and dedicated people. Whether killing is permissible, therefore, depends entirely on context - not on the act or the consequences.

We look upon those same people differently now, and ask how they could have killed people on an industrial scale - innocent women and children amongst them. Should we be looking at Anders Behring Breivik, and ask ourselves what made an intelligent and educated man take the action he did? Or are we to dismiss him as a rabid, extreme "right wing" madman and leave it there? Should we ignore his manifesto and pretend it didn't happen? Until the next time?

On the other hand, we could look at related events in the wider context, analysing them not only for what they are, but what they might be and what they might provoke. There is no excuse for violence, the sages might say. And that might be true. But there are often reasons - and of those we need to know something. Certain acts might be wrong, but some of the thinking behind them might be sound.


EU Referendum: A rational act?

Others,such as Alex Jones, are making him a victim of a governmental conspiracy.
It is no mistake the corporate media is comparing Anders Behring Breivik to Timothy McVeigh. Hours after the terrorist attack, Norway’s public broadcaster NRK cited Tore Bjørgo at the Police College in Oslo who said the attack resembled the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City. The 1995 attack blamed on Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people.

Bjørgo mentioned The Turner Diaries, the “anti-government” novel written by William Luther Pierce, the former leader of the white nationalist organization National Alliance. The novel was introduced as evidence during the trial of Timothy McVeigh, the government agent patsy set-up to take the fall for the bombing.

The Oklahoma City bombing was a false flag event used to roll out several draconian aspects of the police state in the 1990s. Following the attack, Congress passed at the behest of then president Clinton a number of national security proposals that built the foundation and established antecedents for the PATRIOT Act in response to the staged attacks of September 11, 2011.

False flag attacks followed by intense propaganda campaigns are one of several methods used by government to neutralize political opposition.

Breivik is obviously a patsy for a Gladio operation to destroy political opposition to the bankers. Operation Gladio was a “strategy of tension” devised by the elite that employed terrorism – assassination and bombings – to discredit political opponents in Europe. It was set-up by the CIA and staffed in part with former members of Mussolini’s secret police


Prison Planet.com » Evidence Shows Norway Terror Attack a False Flag
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:17 PM   #102
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in Norway there has been tolerance for multiculturalism by the ruling party, the Labor Party.
Not exactly correct. Norway bends over backwards in extreme ways to be multicultural and tolerant of Islam, as gay American expat living in Norway Bruce Bawer writes, saying it would be tactically dumb for a muslim jihadi attack in that country.

Denmark is a better location for that.

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I think the key to keeping people like that from going violently nuts is to make the topic off-limits for conversation, or even make talking about it a crime. That seems to be working out well over there.

Who knew that Saudi Arabia was allowing "invaders" to assimilate? So when's the first synagogue going to be finished?
Don't have to be religion...

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Re-read the article, Mrs. P, and notice the long-standing tradition of the island being used for young members of the Labor Party, not the exclusively children we're receiving from news reports.

But ObamaCare mandating medical coverage for "children" up to 26 years of age--this depressingly received the hugest applause at the College of William and Mary when announced-- I can understand your difficulty in the matter.
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Don't have to be religion...

Wanna wager on whether the food there is halal?

Meanwhile, on matters of substance:

Thousands protest against Mohammad caricature in Oslo - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News


6 injured in violent Gaza protests in Oslo - Israel News, Ynetnews
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[QUOTE=State;2596654]Re-read the article, Mrs. P, and notice the long-standing tradition of the island being used for young members of the Labor Party, not the exclusively children we're receiving from news reports.[/quoet]

I think most of the articles I've been reading, and I've read plenty, refer to them, not as children, but as young people - or as children and young people.

I mean, really, think about it. A camp for "young members of the Labor Party," really doesn't bring to mind a bunch of 5 year olds, does it? Common sense would make you think that it was similar to our "Young Republicans" or our "Young Democrats," which would be kids from 13 or to up to 30.

In fact, just out of curiousity, I looked up the Young Republicans organization here in the USA....

The Young Republicans (YRs) are the oldest political youth organization in the United States. Important to the growth of the Republican Party, the YRs reach out to registered Republicans, 18 to 40 years of age, and provide them with better political knowledge and understanding of the issues of the day.

.:: Young Republican National Federation ::.

The Young Democrats are a little stricter - they are only allowed to be up to the age of 36 in order to be a member.

Maybe they grow up a little faster, I don't know.

Young Democrats of America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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And you gauged this applause how exactly?

I don't know how old your children are, State, but I can pretty much assure you when they are 23 or 24 and still in college working on their advanced degrees, I'm pretty sure you'll be taking advantage of the fact that you can continue to carry them on your insurance policy rather than fork out an extra $400 or $500 a month to cover them individually.

Unless you make a whopping $64,000.00 a year - in which case you can, of course, easily afford to do so.
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And you gauged this applause how exactly?
I listened to it. The POTUS spoke there and the college students wildly responded to this feature.

I'll be rational and take advantage of what I can, but for the good of the country, I hope the travesty of ObamaCare is repealed.

Have you seen the direction the country is heading with all its debt? I think the day of reckoning is upon us, which I will address in a new thread.
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I listened to it. The POTUS spoke there and the college students wildly responded to this feature.
Good, great...but saying something was "the loudest" implies that you listened to it everywhere else as well. Otherwise how do you compare it?

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What do your links have to do with cultural invasion? Middle East people protesting or treating each other like animals is not news.
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In many places in Europe there are places the police cannot go, there are countries where the muslims have sharia courts outside the civic justice system...
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