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Old 07-22-2011, 05:04 AM   #21
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Ignoring the fact that you're comparing a federal tax to a state tax, I do think Amazon should charge their customers sales tax for whatever state the sale is made in. I buy a lot of stuff online and it seems to me they usually charge me their local sales tax and yet for some reason Amazon doesn't.

Of course if that were actually the law, then they would probably relocate their entire operation to New Hampshire. (I honestly don't know where Amazon is located, although I think they have warehouses in different locations throughout the country but don't quote me on that).
And a large number of them are "independent contractors" who receive strictly cash payments and Uncle Sam never sees a dime.
But, you made a stereotype, and that's what I was asking about. Yes, a large number of illegals do work under the table (as do a large number of American citizens).
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:49 AM   #22
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Yeah, but did they buy books?

The service at the Border's coffee shops was terrible here...compared to someplace like Starbucks or even Dunkin Donut's there wasn't even a comparison. Wasn't even in the same league.

Their book and bookish incidental prices were high, the lay-out sucked and the service wasn't all that great - at least not at any of the Borders I've been to - and I've been to them in several states.

I'm always surprised at you for complaining about Internet sales and things - don't you work from home yourself? I presume, if you do, that it's a good thing for you or you wouldn't do it - so why condemn anything else that operates via computer or anyone else who chooses to do anything from their home rather than leaving it to accomplish the same things?
I actually HATE working from home. Being a single person who is at home day in, day out, it's not nearly as rewarding as working side-by-side with my co-workers. It's too impersonal and I'm never "away from my office".

If I had a good offer to work in an office, I'd take it in a heart-beat. People who work from home tend to work too many hours and that's not what life is all about.
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It saves trees.

Look, each generation laments the passing of their ways of life. I'm not diminishing the poignancy of it, it just is.

I'm sure way back in 15th century Gutenburg people were lamenting the end of the scribe occupation.
The difference between social changes that ocurred 50 years ago or more was that they didn't involve the "De-socialization" that the changes in advanced technology have brought with them.

Whether it be fire, the wheel, the combustion engine, the automobile, the telephone, etc....they didn't involve people interacting less and less the way today's changes do.

I don't even think the statement "not all change is good" is even debatable and it applies to many changes happening today.
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I actually HATE working from home. Being a single person who is at home day in, day out, it's not nearly as rewarding as working side-by-side with my co-workers. It's too impersonal and I'm never "away from my office".

If I had a good offer to work in an office, I'd take it in a heart-beat. People who work from home tend to work too many hours and that's not what life is all about.
Interesting....and I mean that in a good way.

Different strokes, I guess. I'd love to work from home. Never leaving the house again sounds just fine to me.

Maybe it also depends on location as well as personality. Living around DC has convinced me that Internet shopping has been the best invention since the automobile. It takes great fortitude and energy to leave the house here to go anywhere. Traffic is terrible, parking is worse. (The local Target even has a pay-lot for parking....IF you can even find a place once you pay to get in.) Too many people, too little space. Much nicer to simply get on-line, find what you want and order it. When I was working full time I even ordered my groceries on-line and had them delivered....just because Saturday afternoon shopping was so horrendous.

Plus, for those of us whose families and friends live out of state it's much easier to order their gifts and things on-line and have them shipped directly rather than hassling with packing and mailing and all that it entails.

Working "Side-by-side" is ok, I suppose....unless it isn't. I mean, what if you and I had to share office space? Think of how you'd long for the good old days when you worked at home and all you had to do was put me on "ignore!!"

There's good and bad in everything, I suppose. It's all what you make of it.
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Interesting....and I mean that in a good way.

Different strokes, I guess. I'd love to work from home. Never leaving the house again sounds just fine to me.

Maybe it also depends on location as well as personality. Living around DC has convinced me that Internet shopping has been the best invention since the automobile. It takes great fortitude and energy to leave the house here to go anywhere. Traffic is terrible, parking is worse. (The local Target even has a pay-lot for parking....IF you can even find a place once you pay to get in.) Too many people, too little space. Much nicer to simply get on-line, find what you want and order it. When I was working full time I even ordered my groceries on-line and had them delivered....just because Saturday afternoon shopping was so horrendous.

Plus, for those of us whose families and friends live out of state it's much easier to order their gifts and things on-line and have them shipped directly rather than hassling with packing and mailing and all that it entails.

Working "Side-by-side" is ok, I suppose....unless it isn't. I mean, what if you and I had to share office space? Think of how you'd long for the good old days when you worked at home and all you had to do was put me on "ignore!!"

There's good and bad in everything, I suppose. It's all what you make of it.
I agree with your entire post. It does depend on where one lives regarding internet shopping, very good point.

If I weren't single, I probably wouldn't mind working from home. But people need to be around people in my opinion. We are not solitary animals. I miss having lunch with co-workers, going out on a Friday night after a tough week (even though I don't drink) or just a little banter.

And if you and I actually KNEW one another, we may not be as antagonistic towards one another. The way we get along (or don't) on the internet is not an indicator of how we'd get along in REAL life...at least that's the way I see it.

My final point is that although things change that I don't like, change will continue regardless of my feelings, so I will accept change however reluctantly. That's life I guess.
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Maybe it also depends on location as well as personality. Living around DC has convinced me that Internet shopping has been the best invention since the automobile. It takes great fortitude and energy to leave the house here to go anywhere. Traffic is terrible, parking is worse. (The local Target even has a pay-lot for parking....IF you can even find a place once you pay to get in.) Too many people, too little space. Much nicer to simply get on-line, find what you want and order it. When I was working full time I even ordered my groceries on-line and had them delivered....just because Saturday afternoon shopping was so horrendous.
Shopping is no problem if you just have to walk across the street! Nothing like "urban" living (or at least living close to shops and services).
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It saves trees.

Look, each generation laments the passing of their ways of life. I'm not diminishing the poignancy of it, it just is.

I'm sure way back in 15th century Gutenburg people were lamenting the end of the scribe occupation.
That's not even what my point was, which is that people put far too much trust in their technology, thinking that it will always be safe and secure no matter what. Wars, sabotage and natural disasters aren't unheard of. If our culture is contained in cyberspace, is it not vulnerable?
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I always liked Barnes and Nobles anyway. I never liked the feel of a Borders.

I bought my wife a Nook for her birthday a few months back. It took her some time to warm up to it but now she loves it. She probably reads now more then she ever has because it makes it so easy.

And an FYI to those that use Amazon. Amazon doesn't collect the sales tax but that doesn't mean you still owe it. There is a section on your MA return, for instance, that asks you to put down how much in internet purchases you had where there was no sales tax. MA actually does sales tax audits and they will go back seven years and go through all your credit card statements looking for purchases. The worst part is that you have to prove that you paid the sales tax. If you don't have the proof then you have to pay it, plus penalties and interest. Always a good idea just to throw down a number on the return even if you aren't sure how much in purchases you made.
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That's not even what my point was, which is that people put far too much trust in their technology, thinking that it will always be safe and secure no matter what. Wars, sabotage and natural disasters aren't unheard of. If our culture is contained in cyberspace, is it not vulnerable?
I agree with you on an emotional basis. I can't imagine not being able to hold, smell, feel or read an actual book - but I also don't see them doing away with the Library of Congress any time soon.

I think (hope) there will always be print books available. I also think (hope) that eventually I'll get up the nerve to buy a Kindle or something similar and move into this century.

As to losing all the books in the world because they only exist in cyberspace - look what happened in Alexandria - and the world, and civilization, survived.

eHistory.com: The Burning of the Library of Alexandria
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I agree with you on an emotional basis. I can't imagine not being able to hold, smell, feel or read an actual book - but I also don't see them doing away with the Library of Congress any time soon.

I think (hope) there will always be print books available. I also think (hope) that eventually I'll get up the nerve to buy a Kindle or something similar and move into this century.

As to losing all the books in the world because they only exist in cyberspace - look what happened in Alexandria - and the world, and civilization, survived.

eHistory.com: The Burning of the Library of Alexandria
Which was immediately followed by the Dark Ages in Europe.
No thanks.
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)
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