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Old 07-21-2011, 12:00 PM   #11
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All this talk by conservatives about how we have to "protect the Borders" was just a bunch of BS.
Yeah, but I don't see the problem here. For years, doctors have been doing just fine without Borders, and they're pretty fart smellas.

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And if you go to a Barnes & Noble, the first thing you see when you walk in is a kiosk for Kindles. Are they deliberately trying to put themselves out of business? I've tried to use one, but my brain won't let me do it.
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And if you go to a Barnes & Noble, the first thing you see when you walk in is a kiosk for Kindles. Are they deliberately trying to put themselves out of business? I've tried to use one, but my brain won't let me do it.
I think they knew their model had to change. If you can't beat em, join em.

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All this talk by conservatives about how we have to "protect the Borders" was just a bunch of BS.
That's because the aristocrats that really run things own lots of Amazon stock.




Wow. I can't say stuff like that with a straight face, even online.
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It's wierd how we continue to have an unwavering faith in technology, even up to the point of putting everything that's important to us in digital form. Is it now officially decided that there will never be another catastrophe that could wipe out communication and cultural sources? I have always been nervous about mp3 music, spell check, and now kindles. I'm not a luddite, but I don't like the idea of eliminating books and grammar. Can't debate it very well because it's just an uneasy feeling that I get just before something bad happens.
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It's wierd how we continue to have an unwavering faith in technology, even up to the point of putting everything that's important to us in digital form. Is it now officially decided that there will never be another catastrophe that could wipe out communication and cultural sources? I have always been nervous about mp3 music, spell check, and now kindles. I'm not a luddite, but I don't like the idea of eliminating books and grammar. Can't debate it very well because it's just an uneasy feeling that I get just before something bad happens.
It saves trees.

Look, each generation laments the passing of their ways of life. I'm not diminishing the poignancy of it, it just is.

I'm sure way back in 15th century Gutenburg people were lamenting the end of the scribe occupation.
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There's something sad about the demise of bookstores, yet at the same time as we transition to electronic media, it means fewer trees will be cut down and less pollution. I haven't bought a Kindle or Nook yet, but I've heard from avid readers mostly positive reviews. The traditional book will continue to have a place, but a smaller and smaller place in our lives. In addition, I love browsing in bookstores much more than browsing on line. In a bookstore, the buyers have already taken a first cut from all the books out there. Online, one hardly knows where to begin when choosing a book.
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I'd say that's inevitable when your largest competitor is able to largely escape the burden of sales taxes.
So Amazon does to Borders what illegal immigrants do to American workers? Only, of course, with income taxes instead of sales taxes.
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So Amazon does to Borders what illegal immigrants do to American workers? Only, of course, with income taxes instead of sales taxes.
So you think Amazon should pay sales tax? Is that your point?

At any rate, I'd be curious to know where you got your stereotype from? A large number of illegals pay income taxes (many have legit jobs and taxes taken out), even the Social Security tax from which they will not benefit.

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So you think Amazon should pay sales tax? Is that your point?
Ignoring the fact that you're comparing a federal tax to a state tax, I do think Amazon should charge their customers sales tax for whatever state the sale is made in. I buy a lot of stuff online and it seems to me they usually charge me their local sales tax and yet for some reason Amazon doesn't.

Of course if that were actually the law, then they would probably relocate their entire operation to New Hampshire. (I honestly don't know where Amazon is located, although I think they have warehouses in different locations throughout the country but don't quote me on that).
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At any rate, I'd be curious to know where you got your stereotype from? A large number of illegals pay income taxes (many have legit jobs and taxes taken out), even the Social Security tax from which they will not benefit.
And a large number of them are "independent contractors" who receive strictly cash payments and Uncle Sam never sees a dime.

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