Mrs.PatsFanInVa

One of them used to, yeah. He'd dance around and his tattoos would jiggle all funny and his nipple rings would flop up and down.

Not so much anymore since he bought his 8th furniture store, tho.

I kinda miss the good old days.

State

You need taxpayers to subsidize your parents and you have an extremely successful and, ahem, wealthy son? Just curious.

State

Just for the record I've published many of these ideas under my own name in various newspapers. Predictably the response by those who can't respond substantively is yours: Calling me a racist.

That the best you can do? Any objective reading of this thread will show I've brought up facts that haven't been effectively disputed by anyone. And the anonymity of a chat room (really not so much as people think) allows more freedom to explore controversial topics without the threat of reprisal.

For example, prospective employers will increasingly be looking at social media to vet a prospective employee's thoughts.

Harry Boy

I miss the good old days too but I get a lot of ***** everytime I say it.............

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Mrs.PatsFanInVa

And you believe it is the duty of a 20 something man with a young family of his own to take care of his mother's mother-in-law whom he's never met and who lives on the opposite coast of where he lives?

And you have absolutely no idea of how much or how little he's contributed to his own grandmother, have you?

Absolutely none.

State

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Mrs. Pat, I believe in rugged individualism and family helping families. If your son who owns eight furniture stores is not going to do it, you want someone else to do it. Using the force of the state. That's all. Don't get so defensive.

It's that mindset that has turned us into what used to be a small government republic into Big Government Police State. And we're the worse for it.

I agree with Dennis Prager: the bigger the gov't the smaller the people.

I took care of a family member who was related to me only by marriage until he or she died last year (tomorrow's the one year anniversary in fact)...and it sucked. Totally sucked. But what was I going to do? My wife and I took him/her off the welfare rolls and into our house.

I walk my talk, sister.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Along with not calling me "Darling," you may want to stop calling me "sister," too.

Good for you, I'm glad you took care of your family member. I, too, have taken care of family members. Two grandparents, two aunts and a father. All of them kept at home under my watchful eye until they died. A grand total of nearly 20 years all together. And I'd do it again if I could.

But I can't. One of the "mothers" in question is totally dependant. She cannot move, eat, drink or otherwise participate in her own care. No one in the family is equipped to care for her. There are tubes, there are medical devices, there are suction machines, there are IVs. The other mother has her own problems. None of which I am going to get into right now but suffice to say there's no one who could care for her, either....and believe me, I tried. I even left my husband here a few years ago and moved back to Indiana in an attempt to stay with her in her own home and care for her but it was not possible. Not for her, not for me and certainly not for my son.

Don't be so quick to judge, State. That seems to be your biggest problem. You have no understanding of "other" families or other backgrounds or other complications which befall a family or a person.

As for my son being "wealthy," aren't you one of the guys who insists that small businessmen are the backbone of the country, the job givers, the job providers, whatever........Don't you agree that, at least in the early days of their careers, they spend most of their money plowing it back into their businesses? Isn't that what we want them to do? Or do you want them to cut teh jobs of several other people in order to care for one individual who can no longer care for herself, if indeed, she ever was? (Which she wasn't, btw.)

You want to blame someone - blame the medical field. Blame the nursing homes. The way it works is this:

A person enters a nursing home - they sign over all of their property and their assets for their care. That care runs approximately $6,000 to $10,000 as a private pay per month. When those assets run out they are considered indigent. The nursing home continues to gets their ss checks, their retirement checks and any annuity money they may get on a monthly basis. The government them picks up a portion of what charges are not paid for by those funds.

However, a family cannot pick up just a portion - they must pick up the whole thing if the patient is to remain a private pay.

Which means - it might cost me or my son (or yourself should you ever have a parent who becomes too ill to care for at home) somewhere between $2,000 and $5,000 a month depending on the size of their ss and retirement checks and the cost of the care they receive. It does not, however, cost the government nearly as much. The government has worked deals with the nursing homes and hospitals and hospices which allows them to pay much less for the same services. Sometimes even nothing at all.

Now if the nursing home could charge me or my family what they charge the government perhaps it would be doable...but they do not. And they will not.

The family still pays for things like hair cuts, television services, phone services, medications that neither medicare or medicaid pays for, clothing, incidentals, certain types of transportation, any extra kind of food that the patient might like, etc. Or the patient goes without.

We gladly pay those things. And more.

People do what they can, State. Most people. White people, black people, yellow people, rich people and poor people.

That's why they ought to stick together instead of constantly trying to separate themselves from one another.

United we stand and all.

You know what happens to a nation divided, I presume.....and that's a direct result of not caring for the weakest link.

Don't ever think that someday some weakness may not hit your own family and that they, too, may require some sort of helping hand.

I only hope that people like you have not managed to cut that hand off at the elbow by the time you're done being so rightous and so knowing.

State

Blogging extraordinarie Steve Sailer on the Pew Hispanic Center's data from the Census Bureau breaking down median household net worths. I like the user-friendly graphic.

Steve Sailer's iSteve Blog: Wealth gap ratio hits new high

I have to keep looking at the black figure. Five thousand, seven hundred? Looks like a typo, even though I have seen it in several places.

These differences between Asians and whites versus blacks and Hispanics is truly huge. And we've had this war on poverty since 1965.

Gone about as well as other wars we've engaged in recently.