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Old 07-15-2011, 01:37 PM   #1
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I hate to pick on Bachmann and her husband but this screams hypocrisy to me as the GOP has been actively cutting Planned Parenthood funding all around the Country.

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In Michele Bachmann's campaign appearances, the Sixth District congresswoman has touted the family's counseling business in references to job creation and entrepreneurship.

Critics say her harsh words about government spending are hypocritical given the state and federal payments that go to Bachmann & Associates.

The Associated Press has reported that the clinics have accepted at least $30,000 in state payments and $137,000 in federal payments. Much of the money was for services to people in Medicaid-backed programs.

Bachmann said federal and state subsidies flow to his business because it doesn't discriminate against patients in subsidized health-care programs.

"It's low income. It's people who are on limited income," Bachmann said. "It is a lower-paying insurance. It's not a money maker. ... So, gee, we get criticized because we take it. And somehow they tie it all in, into my wife because she's the big proponent of less taxes and less programs and so forth.

"So, over and over the bell rings about how we take this federal money," he continued. "Oooh, how evil that is. And I say to you: 'No. It would be evil not to.'"
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:44 PM   #2
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"So, over and over the bell rings about how we take this federal money," he continued. "Oooh, how evil that is. And I say to you: 'No. It would be evil not to.'"

Marcus Bachmann says his clinics not anti-gay | StarTribune.com
Of course it's not evil to take the money - it's only evil to give the money.

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Old 07-15-2011, 01:48 PM   #3
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Holy Cripes!! I like this "little incidental" at the end of the article most of all.

Bachmann is not a licensed psychologist in Minnesota, but state law has allowed unlicensed therapists to see patients. According to the Bachmann & Associates website, he has been a clinical therapist in the Twin Cities for more than 20 years.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:56 PM   #4
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Of course it's not evil to take the money - it's only evil to give the money.
Bachmann & Associates? As you are faith based here is federal & state cash. Planned Parenthood? GFY you heathens.

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(Reuters) - Planned Parenthood has stopped providing birth control pills and other contraception in New Hampshire after the state's executive council rejected up to $1.8 million in funding for the group, which also provides privately-funded abortions.

The move is expected to affect an average of 120 low-income women each day. Other services provided by Planned Parenthood, including pelvic exams, were also in peril.

"Patients who used to be able to come to us for their pills now have to walk away," said Jennifer Frizzell, a spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood of Northern New England.

The Republicans that compose New Hampshire's five-member executive council voted 3-2 to reject funding for Planned Parenthood's six clinics in the state on June 22.

The council, a vestige of the state's colonial government that is independent of the governor, must approve all state contracts greater than $10,000.

"I am opposed to abortion," said Raymond Wieczorek, a council member who voted against the contract. "I am opposed to providing condoms to someone. If you want to have a party, have a party but don't ask me to pay for it."

Under federal law, Planned Parenthood cannot use government funds to provide abortion, and Frizzell said it the group is subject to regular audits to ensure that only private money is used to pay for abortions.

Efforts in New Hampshire's Republican-controlled legislature to cut off funding for Planned Parenthood entirely failed earlier this year.

Frizzell said the organization was surprised that the executive council, which usually steers clear of controversial policy issues, had entered the debate.

State and federal funds from the contract make up about 20 percent of the Planned Parenthood's annual budget in New Hampshire. Frizzell said the group was hoping to persuade the council to reverse its vote, and is considering filing suit.

A number of other health services, including pelvic exams and treatment for sexually-transmitted diseases, were being funded on a week-to-week basis, she said.

"If this funding isn't restored we won't be able to do that and may have to start closing centers," she said.

New Hampshire's move is part of a national effort by abortion foes to defund Planned Parenthood's health and family planning operations in response to the organization's abortion services and advocacy.

In June, a federal judge in Indiana ruled the state could not cut off Medicaid funds to Planned Parenthood clinics in that state. The organization has also filed suits in Kansas and North Carolina after legislatures in those states stripped it of funding.
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Ok....I've got lotsa questions now.

Every article I find which references Marcus Bachmann mentions that he is a "non-licensed" or "non-certified" Christian therapist. Yet, in Michelle's biography he is listed as a PhD and he uses the title, "Doctor," in front of his name.

So - just what is he a doctor of? If his speciality is psychotherapy and he is a medical doctor of something, why not have a license or at least a certification? Unless he's got a law degree or a doctorate in education or something and just likes using the title.

And - big question here. Normally insurance companies and government medical assistance programs do not make payments to non-licensed or non-certified medical professionals. So - how does he collect his medicaid payments? I suppose the people he employs could be licensed or certified or registered - but if the owner of the clinic is not, how legal is it?

I've tried checking the website of Bachmann & Associates but I keep getting a "that page no longer exists" message.

Can't find his education history located anywhere.

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Ok.... I looked a bit further and found this:

His website states that he has a master’s degree education/counseling from Regent University in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

Marcus Bachmann received his Ph.D degree in clinical psychology from Union Graduate Institute located in Cincinnati, Ohio. Union Institute, a non-profit private college based in Cincinnati, Ohio, specializes in limited residence and distance learning programs. Union Institute & University currently has a retention rate of approximately 67% and holds a graduation rate of approximately 52%.
"One thing that distinguishes the Union Institute and University from its for-profit competitors is the the generalist nature of its Ph.D. The formal title of its Ph.D. degree is "Ph.D. in Interdisciplinary Studies." This title and the program reflect the original idea of the consortium of offering a non-residential Ph.D. program that avoided specialization and did not take as long to complete as a traditional program (originally it took a minimum of two years to complete)."

Given the problems with the Ph.D degree issued by Union and questions regarding the institution's accreditation, it is quite conceivable that the Bachmann's credentials are invalid altogether.“ This would also raise some questions about the clinic’s ability to meet the Minnesota requirements for licensing.

As another graduate of Union Institute, talk show host Gary Null, notes, "This school is accredited by the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools but its accreditation does not cover awarding of PhDs in the sciences, only in the humanities. "

In any case, since nothing on either of the Bachmann's resume mention residing in Cincinnati, where Union Institute is located, one must, at the very least, assume his degree is a distance-learning or online type and not one normally associates with a medical doctor.


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Ok....I've got lotsa questions now.

Every article I find which references Marcus Bachmann mentions that he is a "non-licensed" or "non-certified" Christian therapist. Yet, in Michelle's biography he is listed as a PhD and he uses the title, "Doctor," in front of his name.

So - just what is he a doctor of? If his speciality is psychotherapy and he is a medical doctor of something, why not have a license or at least a certification? Unless he's got a law degree or a doctorate in education or something and just likes using the title.

And - big question here. Normally insurance companies and government medical assistance programs do not make payments to non-licensed or non-certified medical professionals. So - how does he collect his medicaid payments? I suppose the people he employs could be licensed or certified or registered - but if the owner of the clinic is not, how legal is it?

I've tried checking the website of Bachmann & Associates but I keep getting a "that page no longer exists" message.

Can't find his education history located anywhere.

Interrrestting.
Being unlicensed isn't an issue in Minnesota. I doubt I could open a "clinic" in Massachusetts without being licensed. I don't even think I can cut hair any any state without a permit/license!


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Bachmann is not a licensed psychologist in Minnesota, but state law has allowed unlicensed therapists to see patients. According to the Bachmann & Associates website, he has been a clinical therapist in the Twin Cities for more than 20 years.
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Yeah, I understand that....but that doesn't mean that Medicaid or private insurances will accept them or make payments to them.
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Yeah, I understand that....but that doesn't mean that Medicaid or private insurances will accept them or make payments to them.
Government provides funding to all kinds of things. Of course if it was up to the Bachmann's the government wouldn't fund unemployment insurance, minimum wage, social security, planned parenthood, etc.

If she wins the GOP nomination, she will be crushed in the general election.
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Regent University and Union Graduate School are like Lincoln Tech and the "University of Phoenix"

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