wistahpatsfan

I don't think anyone considers Marx to be a Founder of the US. And there are a lot of things they didn't envision. In fact, they couldn't even envision California or electricity, could they? Using the "what the Founding Fathers envisioned" line is not very useful in today's context, unfortunately. Life has become so complicated and there are so many more people. One has to wonder how the Union manages to stay together anymore.

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State

Yeah, what's the famous quote? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While on its face, this communal creed of secular utopia might be alluring, in practice it's been a disaster. F.A. Harper writes: Fringe Benefits: A Threat to Progress - F.A. Harper - Mises Daily

mcgraw_wv

I disagree... The Founding Fathers saw an entire human history of oppresive governments and rulers who's primary focus was to the benifit of the select few at the expense of everyone else.

They set out to lay down a system which prevented the ruling body to represent the few at the expense of the many, to restrict government's role in day to day lives... You don't need factual geographic maps or changes in demographics to have that idea still applicable to today.

Those who want to change the constitution and call it a living document, don't truly understand what the founding fathers aim was, and what the constitution really says.

IllegalContact

I got squeezed out of the middle class.......I didn't mean to do it, but it happened.......It is all my fault.

It all started when I was younger........as a Northeastern coop, at the end of my 2nd year, I decided to go full-time at the company I worked for as a product engineer......I went to 2nd shift so I could go to school during the day and stopped the coop......not only did I finish a year early, but my company paid for it.....not only did I have no debt, but I saved a ton of money......then my boss gave me another idea....keep going and get my MSEE.....he was a navy guy, but he got a kick out of how hard I worked, so half the time he would tell me to go off somewhere and study. 18 months later, I was done with my masters which was also paid for by the company.

been prudent with my money ever since.....just turned 50 and both of my homes are paid for and I got the $$ for my 2 kids college educations, but if they're anything like their old man, they will likely find a different way to get college paid for and just like their old man, start out ahead of the curve.

the kicker is not what I achieved and what I saved, but rather HOW EASY IT WAS. It will be just as easy for my kids......you want to know why? because 90% of our country HAS BECOME A BUNCH OF LAZY SLOBS preferring to point fingers at the injustices that really don't exist at all

mcgraw_wv

Loss of personally responsibility.

IllegalContact

to a motivated person, this country is a candy shop

State

I think this famous quote by the author of the founding document, our Declaration, perfectly encapsulates what you're trying to say.

IllegalContact

the only effective way to stop people from getting rich and the rich from getting richer is to eliminate all motivation in our society.

State

Dennis Prager talks eloquently about the larger the government the smaller the person.

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The entitlement mentality, which socialism promotes, is a soul- and character-destroyer.