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Old 06-24-2011, 03:26 PM   #41
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It doesn't matter why China changed. You said why don't we criticize China and I told you we always have. That should have ended that point...and you were wrong....
I didn't say we've never criticized them. I was saying that they are a notable nation we should criticize / pressure if we are going to criticize / pressure nations based on curtailment of civil liberties.


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....There is no question of whether sharia reflects true Islam because it is Islam. Now some Muslims may not agree with it, but it reflects Islam the religion as much as the 10 Commandments reflect Christianity.
By that reasoning laws sentencing people to death for working on the sabbath and permitting children to be sold would reflect "true Christianity," I guess?

or maybe there is some question...
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:27 PM   #42
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Because you're librul?

Good thing you're not Jewish then, huh?


good thing I'm not jewish? I guess if I wanted to go to Saudi Arabia, yeah.
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:31 PM   #43
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Delta is coping out. Playing I'm only following orders s lame. They know why the Visas aren't being issued and they could have lodged a protest. They are as much about the visas vs. Jews as the south was over states rights vs. slaves. Are the Jews identified in the story justified in their anger with Delta? I think they are.
Of course they know, but unless you and others who are upset w/Delta are similarly upset w/all companies doing business w/Saudi Arabia, I think this is much ado over nothing.

To the extent this isn't about visas, it's about transacting with Saudi Arabia at all.

(btw, this isn't just about Jews -- it also said anybody w/non-Islamic items of worship, which I take to mean that a person carrying a bible onto their flight would be forced to leave it or not be permitted onto the plane)

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Of course they know, but unless you and others who are upset w/Delta are similarly upset w/all companies doing business w/Saudi Arabia, I think this is much ado over nothing.

To the extent this isn't about visas, it's about transacting with Saudi Arabia at all.

(btw, this isn't just about Jews -- it also said anybody w/non-Islamic items of worship, which I take to mean that a person carrying a bible onto their flight would be forced to leave it or not be permitted onto the plane)
Other companies doing business with Saudi Arabia is one thing. Companies that allow discrimination as part of an agreement to do business with them is another.

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America and Israel have a dangerous enemy, for some strange reason Liberals don't want to believe it, Liberals are more concerned with Sarah Palins sex life and rubbish bags than they are with the possibility that the Muslems will slaughter a few more thousand of us.

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Other companies doing business with Saudi Arabia is one thing. Companies that allow discrimination as part of an agreement to do business with them is another.
If there are American companies doing business with Saudi Arabia that are able to do so without restrictions like these (for ex, sending Jews, women, etc. there), then I change my stance on Delta and agree with you completely.
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Never been to the Middle East but if I had to pick a favorite it would have to be Qater with those beautiful hotels and beaches. Seriously how can one have a favorite Middle East country unless you have traveled to a few of them and I don't mean in a C-130.
I'd like to visit Petra.
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If there are American companies doing business with Saudi Arabia that are able to do so without restrictions like these (for ex, sending Jews, women, etc. there), then I change my stance on Delta and agree with you completely.
During Apartheid the US restricted flights in from South Africa because of their discrimination policies. No one is forcing Delta to do business with Saudi Arabia. They freely have jumped in with both feet and then kick the can down the road to absolve themselves. Not buying it.

I ran across this while looking up businesses that have a relationship with them. It's a series of letters to Delta regarding the deal that was struck. Delta sucks IMO. The site is right of center, obviously but it's not Fox news either. Automatically it will be dismissed accordingly and it mentions Sharia-law(which by itself cause liberals to claim victory in a debate)It does seem left of center people want to give Delta a pass on this. Honestly, I don't understand it.


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During Apartheid the US restricted flights in from South Africa because of their discrimination policies. No one is forcing Delta to do business with Saudi Arabia. They freely have jumped in with both feet and then kick the can down the road to absolve themselves. Not buying it.

I ran across this while looking up businesses that have a relationship with them. It's a series of letters to Delta regarding the deal that was struck. Delta sucks IMO. The site is right of center, obviously but it's not Fox news either. Automatically it will be dismissed accordingly and it mentions Sharia-law(which by itself cause liberals to claim victory in a debate)It does seem left of center people want to give Delta a pass on this. Honestly, I don't understand it.


Is Delta Airlines Showing Signs Of ‘Creeping Sharia’ Law & Should Jewish Passengers Be Concerned? | Breaking news and opinion on The Blaze
This just brings us back to what I said 2 posts ago. Rather than repeat the back and forth, I'll ask (i) are other American companies doing business with Saudi Arabia are able to do so without restrictions like these? and (ii) if not, are you and other people who are upset w/Delta also upset with those companies? (because this is the first I think I've heard of anybody being upset about this)

If you want to make the case that the US and American companies should stop doing business with Saudi Arabia and other nations under sharia, as was done with South Africa under apartheid, I'm listening (though I'll also ask why that's the line when it comes to nations curtailing individual liberties).

And like I also said before, if the answer to (i) is yes, then I agree with you re Delta.

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