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Old 06-20-2011, 01:41 PM   #11
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Its just as NOT outrageous to think that this fire was started by some white, teenaged meth-head...

whats the point?
I don't quite understand the wording here, but my only point is that the reasons mentioned with regards to illegals and potentially starting wild fires is legitimate. Whether they are to blame here I have no idea. It could be a meth head, a lightning strike like someone mentioned, illegals, or big foot passing gas near an open flame. Who knows how or who it was that started it.
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Old 06-20-2011, 02:04 PM   #12
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How about the idiot campers/hikers we hear about every year that get lost in the woods and then need to be saved? They don't start a campfire to stay warm/eat, etc.

I don't see politicians from California, New Mexico or Texas blaming illegals for the fires in their States.
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valid to question them as it would be to question legal campers in the area.
Did you miss that part? Look it. It's valid to look at the possibility is all I'm saying. Anyone that lights fires out there may be the culprits
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I don't quite understand the wording here, but my only point is that the reasons mentioned with regards to illegals and potentially starting wild fires is legitimate. Whether they are to blame here I have no idea. It could be a meth head, a lightning strike like someone mentioned, illegals, or big foot passing gas near an open flame. Who knows how or who it was that started it.
at no point does McLame mention bigfoot, campers, lightning or meth heads. He only mentions "illegals" and says that there is substantial evidence that illegals do this...

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“There is substantial evidence that some of these fires are caused by people who have crossed our border illegally,” McCain, said at a press conference Saturday after touring the Wallow fire [...]

“They have set fires because they signal others, they have set fires to keep warm, and they have set fires in order to divert law enforcement agents and agencies from them,” McCain said. “The answer to that part of the problem is to get a secure border.”
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he is full of crap. until evidence comes forth about who started this, he is simply using a tragedy for political gain.

If it was a meth-head who started it, would McCain ask for more drug treatment facilities?

hell no.
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Did you miss that part? Look it. It's valid to look at the possibility is all I'm saying. Anyone that lights fires out there may be the culprits
McCain said illegals started the fires. He has now back tracked a little bit:

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On Monday, McCain's office released a statement clarifying the senator's remarks, saying that while he had toured the Wallow fire on Saturday, his comments were referring to blazes in southern Arizona more generally, both now and in years past.

“The facts are clear. For years, federal, state and local officials have stated that smugglers and illegal immigrants have caused fires on our southern border," said Brooke Buchanan, Senator McCain's communications director. "During the press conference on Saturday, Senator McCain was referring to fires on the Arizona/Mexico border, not the Wallow Fire.”
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There is information that could determine the probability that it was a campsite of illegals or others.

Did the fire originate in an area used by Recreational campers?

In an area used by illegals in Transit?

What was left at the campsite? Did it identify what sort of 'campers' were there?
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This fire was set by a White Mother F-cker with a Bible and a Hank Williams CD in his backpack, it is cruel and insulting to think that some poor hungry beautiful little Mexican with nothing but love in his heart could have done this with his little campfire.

McCain is an old nut, he is the reason I didn't vote at least I think I didn't vote, God Damn white bastards leave them alone for five minutes and they'll f-ck something up, thats why Obama's a war monger he's half white.
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McCain said illegals started the fires. He has now back tracked a little bit:
and I said in that OP that I didn't see the smoking gun he did. It was all supposition based on the fact that they were known to start fires for personal uses.
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There is information that could determine the probability that it was a campsite of illegals or others.

Did the fire originate in an area used by Recreational campers?

In an area used by illegals in Transit?

What was left at the campsite? Did it identify what sort of 'campers' were there?
There is information that says a fire was set at a campsite. Did gypsy's set the fire? Did NASCAR fans? I have no idea but I will contact the media and say gypsy's did it.

McCain is out of his mind.
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There is information that says a fire was set at a campsite. Did gypsy's set the fire? Did NASCAR fans? I have no idea but I will contact the media and say gypsy's did it.

McCain is out of his mind.
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