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Old 06-16-2011, 08:00 AM   #1
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Daniel Ellsberg, other whistleblowers want Obama

the bastard is worse than Bush when it comes to transparency......

LOL.....you liberal idiots actually fell for it
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Old 06-16-2011, 08:25 AM   #2
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Daniel Ellsberg, other whistleblowers want Obama

the bastard is worse than Bush when it comes to transparency......

LOL.....you liberal idiots actually fell for it
They're still falling for it, they'll all vote for him again.............
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Sorry....Harry already decided this was a racist act not a political one.

More Racism
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Sorry....Harry already decided this was a racist act not a political one.

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well, there are plenty of people in this country who claim racism is the reason for everything that goes wrong in this country.

I am not one of them......


But this does beg the question: Where's the 'change' people were promised? What exactly has 'changed' since Bush has left office? We have the the current regime who is AT LEAST corrupt as the last regime......and yet all the ones who complained about the corruption of the last regime sit here quietly because they have no problem with corruption as long as its 'their guy' doing it.

This is by far the most shining example of political hypocrisy since these kinds of forums have been popular.

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But this does beg the question: Where's the 'change' people were promised? What exactly has 'changed' since Bush has left office? We have the the current regime who is AT LEAST corrupt as the last regime......and yet all the ones who complained about the corruption of the last regime sit here quietly because they have no problem with corruption as long as its 'their guy' doing it.

This is by far the most shining example of political hypocrisy since these kinds of forums have been popular.

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I say you're right...but the political hypocrisy exists on both sides of the aisle.....all the ones who complain about the corruption of this regime are the same ones who were silent about the same corruption of the last regime.

Instead of saying, "Oh cool....this guy's not so bad after all. He's doing the same things Bush did and we were fine with them. We didn't want all that "hope and change" stuff anyhow and good for us...we're not getting them."

The same people who are still sticking up for torture and still saying that the reason Bin Laden was finally found was because of "thank god" the torture/prison policies that flourished under Bush/Cheney are the same ones who are complaining that Obama is less than forthcoming about his own policies - which are, essentially, at least according to this document you've linked to, the same.

Do I think 100% transparency in government is a good thing? Actually, no, I don't. Did we need to know everything Obama's group was doing to locate and kill Bin Laden before they did it? Of course not - if "we" knew, everyone would know - and it wouldn't have happened.

We, for the most part, celebrated the death of Bin Laden - now we're excited because someone's bringing suit because the president who managed to give us his head initiated a secret assassination programme? Can you have it both ways? Could we have found Bin Laden if we had not kept it secret?

They're upset because Obama says he can target American citizens for assassination if they're part of a terror plot or ring? Guess what - that's not new - that's just a continuation of a Bush policy put into effect after 9/11. And it's something that conservatives were just fine with then - it's only when Obama decided to keep the same rules that they became all anti-catch-a-terrorist.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, Bush gave the CIA, and later the military, authority to kill U.S. citizens abroad if strong evidence existed that an American was involved in organizing or carrying out terrorist actions against the United States or U.S. interests, military and intelligence officials said. . . .

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle24516.htm

Do you now want Anwar al-Awlaki to be left alone?

Is that it?

And if it isn't it - then the word "hypocrite" just got a whole lot larger.

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it comes down to this.......

everyone (even you and I) greatly overestimate the difference between democrats and republicans.
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LOL.....you liberal idiots actually fell for it
LOL... like the conservative idiots who actually fell for Bush's promises of smaller government and a more humble foreign policy?
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LOL... like the conservative idiots who actually fell for Bush's promises of smaller government and a more humble foreign policy?
LOL........well it was either that or going with a guy who said 'I INVENTED THE INTERNET'

logical at the time
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They're still falling for it, they'll all vote for him again.......
Like the pubbies, like you, who fell for Bush's lies re-elected him...

If Obama is re-elected, it will be because (i) the economy has improved or (ii) the GOP failed to offer a decent candidate -- something that looks quite possible at this early date.
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LOL........well it was either that or going with a guy who said 'I INVENTED THE INTERNET'

logical at the time
see the GOP opposition to Obama 2 years ago

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