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Old 06-15-2011, 03:38 PM   #11
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How on earth is abortion like smoking or consuming?

All are legal, smoking and drinking can have negative health consequences, abortion is lethal to the baby and sometimes to the mother.
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All are legal, smoking and drinking can have negative health consequences, abortion is lethal to the baby and sometimes to the mother.
So basically any legal medical procedure that carries any risk of death is a logical equivalent of smoking and alcohol consumption. Got it.
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Killing ~1,000,000 babies per year is an Industry, into the hundred of millions a year. Yeah an Industry. REALLY especially to the victims.
Hundreds of millions of abortions per year?

If the Republicans succeed in restricting, or flat out banning, abortion then the United States will become a bad place to live for women.

Abortion is a women rights issue that affects every women, regardless of social or economic standing, in this Country.
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All are legal, smoking and drinking can have negative health consequences, abortion is lethal to the baby and sometimes to the mother.
How do you feel about circumcision? A handful of babies die every year from botched circumcisions while others grow up with non functioning penis'.

Then again, as a pro-lifer you don't care what happens after the child is born do you?
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So basically any legal medical procedure that carries any risk of death is a logical equivalent of smoking and alcohol consumption. Got it.

Abortion of course isn't just a medical procedure it is intentionally ending a viable human life process. You can rationalize compartmentalize and spin all you want, but it is intentionally destroying a life.
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Abortion of course isn't just a medical procedure it is intentionally ending a viable human life process. You can rationalize compartmentalize and spin all you want, but it is intentionally destroying a life.
Should vasectomy's be banned? They stop the creation of human life. How about condoms?
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Should vasectomy's be banned? They stop the creation of human life. How about condoms?



Condoms are not a human life process, neither are sperm. After the sperm and egg create a complete human DNA sequence and the human life process begins it is another story of course.
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The thing that disgusts me is that the Republicans are taking away birth control, breast screenings, pap smears, etc for low income women in their crusade to prevent abortions.
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GOP Poised To Cut Food Aid For Pregnant Women, Children

In an otherwise lean budget year, the House is poised to boost funding to take care of the medical needs of the nation's veterans.

But the GOP-dominated chamber will soon resume its budget-slashing ways as it kicks off debate Tuesday on a food and farm spending bill that cuts aid for low-income pregnant women and their children and slashes a key overseas food aid program by about one-third below this year's funding.

Once money is added for programs like defense, veterans and homeland security, spending on domestic programs like food aid for the poor, education, health care and housing subsidies falls to levels where lawmakers are going to find it difficult. After a $17 billion increase for the Pentagon is factored in, domestic agencies and foreign aid programs would absorb cuts of $47 billion that would translate into cuts averaging about 10 percent.

The White House weighed in Monday with a policy statement blasting the agriculture bill but not explicitly threatening a veto.

A program that provides healthy foods like milk, eggs and infant formula to about 9 million poor mothers and pregnant women and their children is one such program. Lawmakers for years have awarded it enough money so that all eligible people can get food, comparable to automatic benefit programs like food stamps and unemployment insurance.

But the current budget guillotine is forcing cuts to previously protected programs like the food program for women, infants and children. The WIC program would absorb an $868 million cut of 13 percent from current spending – and a $1.3 billion cut below the administration's request. That has Democrats and advocates for the poor howling that it could mean that more than 200,000 people would be turned away from the program if food prices rise as expected.

The bill also cuts a program that delivers food to low-income senior citizens 23 percent below current levels.

GOP Poised To Cut Food Aid For Pregnant Women, Children

I, personally, do not understand how babies are everyone's responsibility while they are in the womb but no one's responsibility once they are out.

If you want them all born you dam well better want to make sure they get enough to eat once you get your way.
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Condoms are not a human life process, neither are sperm. After the sperm and egg create a complete human DNA sequence and the human life process begins it is another story of course.
I don't see how the "human life process" is materially different, at least in the early stages.
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I, personally, do not understand how babies are everyone's responsibility while they are in the womb but no one's responsibility once they are out.

If you want them all born you dam well better want to make sure they get enough to eat once you get your way.
PF13. What are your thoughts on this?
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