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Liberals have the advantage because we're not as judgmental as are conservatives when it comes to the private lives of individuals. While of course Weiner (especially given his name) made an ass of himself, it's not that big of an issue. It's only a big deal when Republicans engage in this kind of behavior because they're so judgmental, and when they adapt a holier-than-thou attitude and then get caught with their pants down (a la Vitter, Gingrich, Ensign, Stamford, etc.) we like to expose their hypocrisy, which often forces them out of office. It's fun for us. The Weiner scandal will prove frustrating to conservatives, as soon as the initial fun wears off. I'm glad he's not resigning.
Who was it the other day who asked what a frauders was?
Of course you're glad he's not resigning. He's wearing your favorite teams jersey. To you, a politician standing in front of the cameras on national television lying to the public is only taboo if it's someone from the "enemy" party. You my friend, are a big part of what's wrong in this country. People excusing unacceptable behavior because of personal politics. BTW, the unacceptable behavior here is lying to the public, while only admitting guilt once you were certifiably caught.
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Another Mrs.PFnVA post concluding with a personal attack (good thing you're liberal!).
Pretty interesting complaint, WP....especially considering that just the other day you said the following to and about me:
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Actually, saying "we don't know it was him" when it was perfectly obvious from the get-go to anyone with an I.Q. north of Forrest Gump's that it was him would be considered by most of the sane world to be defending him.
Do me a favor and let Chico know what post number that quote of yours is from. He really wants to know. K thx.
Who was it the other day who asked what a frauders was?
Of course you're glad he's not resigning. He's wearing your favorite teams jersey. To you, a politician standing in front of the cameras on national television lying to the public is only taboo if it's someone from the "enemy" party. You my friend, are a big part of what's wrong in this country. People excusing unacceptable behavior because of personal politics. BTW, the unacceptable behavior here is lying to the public, while only admitting guilt once you were certifiably caught.
I'm so confused, RW. How does what you've just said here to Patters align with what you said earlier?
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I think it's up to him and his constituents (as well as his collegues in the party) to collectively decide his fate. If the majority consensus between those people is that he should remain on the job, then so be it. The real issue isn't so much sending pics of yourself to hot college girls half your age (I actually commend him for that ), but more a matter of his lying about it, and doing so while being recently married. With issues like these I prefer to leave them as personal to the person as possible, with the understanding that these "personal" acts, are reflective of one's charactor. If you are lying to the public about being hacked, or about not doing this, and then it comes out that you were indeed doing it, and doing it more often than people ever realized, then what else are you lying about becomes my question? How can the general public take you at your word is the real problem IMO. Again though, it's up to him, his constituents, and his party to determine his future. He should have just admitted that it was him. So he's a horn ball, what male isn't? We're a forgiving society for the most part. Admitting guilt is always the best thing to do.
Wanna have some fun with a total two faced liar, go to youtube and search Weiner MSNBC, you will see an exposed now admitted liar telling lie after lie on a whole variety of issues.
I guess his days as Pelosi's pet attack dog are done.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
Who was it the other day who asked what a frauders was?
Of course you're glad he's not resigning. He's wearing your favorite teams jersey. To you, a politician standing in front of the cameras on national television lying to the public is only taboo if it's someone from the "enemy" party. You my friend, are a big part of what's wrong in this country. People excusing unacceptable behavior because of personal politics. BTW, the unacceptable behavior here is lying to the public, while only admitting guilt once you were certifiably caught.
Oh, give me a break, RW. Do you really believe it's inexcusable behavior to be caught in an embarrassing situation and make a few lies before being forced to admit the truth? If this was a matter of policy that would be one thing. But, this is an issue that has nothing to do with politics. I don't expect politicians to be any less than human in their personal lives, and if they screw up the public humiliation is quite enough of a punishment. I think a large number of people do things in their private lives (sexual and other) they wish they hadn't done; it's part of human nature, and I would bet we've all been guilty of it and one time in our lives or another.
I do agree conservatives hold politicians to much higher standards than liberals who essentially have no ethical standards for politicians.
I don't think it's a higher standard. I think it's a narrow standard based largely on Victorian era white male Christian ethics. Conservatives live in a fantasy world where the only position is the missionary position used exclusively for procreation. It's nonsense. What Weiner did was stupid and wrong, but was in keeping with the broad array of human behaviors that cuts across the entire political spectrum.
Oh, give me a break, RW. Do you really believe it's inexcusable behavior to be caught in an embarrassing situation and make a few lies before being forced to admit the truth? If this was a matter of policy that would be one thing. But, this is an issue that has nothing to do with politics. I don't expect politicians to be any less than human in their personal lives, and if they screw up the public humiliation is quite enough of a punishment. I think a large number of people do things in their private lives (sexual and other) they wish they hadn't done; it's part of human nature, and I would bet we've all been guilty of it and one time in our lives or another.
It is inexcusable given he sanctioned and encouraged a cowardly assault on A Breitbart and that he used taxpayer prop and accounts to conduct his sordid personal life. To bee fair I don't recall you being on the ramparts decrying C Lee recently of M Foley (whose behavior most closely resembles that of Weiner).
The party of course is behaving in a typically disgraceful way.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
Oh, give me a break, RW. Do you really believe it's inexcusable behavior to be caught in an embarrassing situation and make a few lies before being forced to admit the truth?
Accusing innocent people of committing felonies? Call me crazy but yeah I consider that inexcusable behavior.
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If this was a matter of policy that would be one thing. But, this is an issue that has nothing to do with politics. I don't expect politicians to be any less than human in their personal lives, and if they screw up the public humiliation is quite enough of a punishment. I think a large number of people do things in their private lives (sexual and other) they wish they hadn't done; it's part of human nature, and I would bet we've all been guilty of it and one time in our lives or another.
You keep using that phrase "personal lives" when there is absolutely nothing "personal" about this whole sordid mess.
Oh, but he's got a "D" after his name. So he can do no wrong in your eyes.
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), but more a matter of his lying about it, and doing so while being recently married. With issues like these I prefer to leave them as personal to the person as possible, with the understanding that these "personal" acts, are reflective of one's charactor. If you are lying to the public about being hacked, or about not doing this, and then it comes out that you were indeed doing it, and doing it more often than people ever realized, then what else are you lying about becomes my question? How can the general public take you at your word is the real problem IMO. Again though, it's up to him, his constituents, and his party to determine his future. He should have just admitted that it was him. So he's a horn ball, what male isn't? We're a forgiving society for the most part. Admitting guilt is always the best thing to do.
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