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Old 01-27-2008, 04:24 PM   #1
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"They that can give up liberty to obtain safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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"They that can give up liberty to obtain safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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A terrorist sympathizer...
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Ben never met the Muslim Mohammad Atta.
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I think he was being sarcastic. That quote is used quite a bit by liberals who are against the Patriot Act and Homeland Security Act.
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I think he was being sarcastic. That quote is used quite a bit by liberals who are against the Patriot Act and Homeland Security Act.
As was I... I didn't mean that he was the terrorist.

I am actually very conservative.

I am absolutely against the Patriot act and Homeland insecurity.

All this is, is a freedom takeaway.

And Ben's quote never rang more true.

I truly believe if Amerika (actually Israel's) wasn't ramming our views and troops in every possible country, we wouldn't have many enemies.

We (Israel) threaten other countries with nuclear bombs, when they have no such evidence of them. They complied with searches.

Did Israel ever bother to have their weapons searched????

NO...

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Liberals and traditional conservatives agree about those things. I could see taking extreme steps in the days following 9/11, but certainly by now we should have been able to put enough systems in place to protect us without asking us to ignore our constitutional rights. But, as I've said before, I don't agree with your take on Israel. I think our strategy there is roughly the same as our strategy with South Korea and Pakistan. We need to be pro-Israel, but also be pressuring them much harder to make peace in the region. But, remember, our military industrial complex really wants war because it's the job of CEOs of those companies to represent the shareholder interest, and the shareholder interest is for the US to build and use its weapons.

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As was I... I didn't mean that he was the terrorist.

I am actually very conservative.

I am absolutely against the Patriot act and Homeland insecurity.

All this is, is a freedom takeaway.

And Ben's quote never rang more true.

I truly believe if Amerika (actually Israel's) wasn't ramming our views and troops in every possible country, we wouldn't have many enemies.

We (Israel) threaten other countries with nuclear bombs, when they have no such evidence of them. They complied with searches.

Did Israel ever bother to have their weapons searched????

NO...

Something to think about.
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We need to be pro-Israel, but also be pressuring them much harder to make peace in the region.
Zionists control at the very least 95% of the world... this isn't a very good sign.

These would be the same people whose goal is for 80% of the world to be deleted.

If you agree with them, that is your right.

I'm not with them though...
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[QUOTE=Terry Glenn is a cowgirl;769842]Zionists control at the very least 95% of the world... this isn't a very good sign. [/quotes]

That's silly. Look at boards of the major corporations in the US, for instance. Most of power is controlled by the WASPs in the US, and that has been true from the start. Obviously, the Zionists don't have power in Africa, South America, and Asia, and in much of Europe, Arabs have more power because they had the right to emigrate during parts of the Colonial period. Quite honestly, there have always been groups who thought either Roman Catholic Church or the Zionists have inordinate power, but they have no evidence. Does Israel have influence. Of course it does, but I bet you've never lived overseas or you would see that Israel has very little influence outside the US.
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