The first casualty of the hollywood writers strike:Fred Thompson - New England Patriots Forums

jack · 01-22-2008, 05:13 PM

Bad timing fred..
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...out/index.html

***PressCoverage*** · 01-22-2008, 05:27 PM

well, perhaps naming an anti-zionist campaign manager, vowing to ban abortion across the board, and defending lobbying were clear indications this guy didn't have a shot...

take care, Fred... we have some lovely parting gifts for you backstage... including the home version...

scout · 01-22-2008, 05:36 PM

I'll probably skip his next "news" conference.

wistahpatsfan · 01-22-2008, 06:13 PM

Wow, this sucks!
Oh wait a minute...no it doesn't.

When does Rudi Quit?

Holy Diver · 01-22-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

Wow, this sucks!
Oh wait a minute...no it doesn't.

When does Rudi Quit?

QUIT?

man...if he quits then the terrorists WIN.

Real World · 01-22-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PressCoverage

well, perhaps naming an anti-zionist campaign manager, vowing to ban abortion across the board, and defending lobbying were clear indications this guy didn't have a shot...

take care, Fred... we have some lovely parting gifts for you backstage... including the home version...

Since when did he ever want to ban abortion across the board? You keep reading those propoganda sites I see. Thompson wanted to put the states in charge of abortion. You know, in this country, it used to be that states had a certain autonomy about them.

***QuiGon*** · 01-22-2008, 06:45 PM

Was Fred Thompson ever actually running...?

Holy Diver · 01-22-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan

Was Fred Thompson ever actually running...?

running on empty

***PressCoverage*** · 01-22-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Real World

Since when did he ever want to ban abortion across the board? You keep reading those propoganda sites I see. Thompson wanted to put the states in charge of abortion. You know, in this country, it used to be that states had a certain autonomy about them.

gosh, i dunno....

maybe HERE, on that propoganda site, CNN?

DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) – Likely Republican White House hopeful Fred Thompson told CNN Friday that he would work to overturn Roe v. Wade if elected president,

Real World · 01-22-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PressCoverage

gosh, i dunno....

maybe HERE, on that propoganda site, CNN?

DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) – Likely Republican White House hopeful Fred Thompson told CNN Friday that he would work to overturn Roe v. Wade if elected president,

Agenda Boy, as I stated, you have no idea about his position on abortion. Hello, you'd need to overturn Roe V Wade in order to give states the right to decide whether or not they want abortion to be legal inside their borders. If you stick to your typical propoganda sites, and don't wander outside every once in a while, you'll never learn anything outside of what they want you to know.

Fred Thompson on Abortion
Former Republican Senator (TN)

Life begins at conception; abortion takes a life
Q: You were endorsed by the National Right to Life Committee, but you oppose a constitutional ban on abortion. You say you'd like to see it the way it was before Roe vs. Wade, with the decision up to states. So let me ask you two yes or no questions. Do you believe that life begins at conception?
A: Yes.

Q: Do you believe that abortion is the taking of life?

A: Yes.

Source: Fox News Sunday: 2007 "Choosing the President" interviews Nov 25, 2007

Reverse Roe & return abortion to states, to allow SOME bans
Q: You believe that abortion is the taking of life; so why leave it up to the states where, as you well know, before Roe vs. Wade, some states allowed abortion on demand?
A: What the situation is now is as follows. Because of Roe vs. Wade, all states are restricted from passing rules that they otherwise would maybe like to pass with regard to this area. If you abolish Roe vs. Wade, you're going to allow every state to pass reasonable rules that they might see fit to pass. There hasn't been a serious effort to put forth a constitutional amendment because people knew that it wouldn't pass. What I've been talking about is directing our energy toward something that was halfway practical, something that might could get done. So now where we have no states with the option of doing anything about it, then we would have however many states wanted to. You could move from zero yard line, to the 60- or 70-yard line instead of standing pat, which is where we will remain if we don't abolish Roe vs. Wade.

Source: Fox News Sunday: 2007 "Choosing the President" interviews Nov 25, 2007

Let states decide abortion with restrictions as they see fit
Q: You said two weeks ago, "I think people ought to be free at state and local levels to make decisions that even Fred Thompson disagrees with. That's what freedom is all about."
A: Exactly.

Q: That is the essence of the pro-choice argument, not individual choice, but pro-choice for states.

A: No, not really. How many pro-choice people say that they want to see the abolition of Roe vs. Wade? I don't know any. What I'm talking about is abolishing Roe vs. Wade [and allowing the abortion decision at the state level].

Q: So even if you disagree with them, states could have abortion on demand.

A: No, not abortion on demand. They could restrict. They would have the ability to restrict abortion more than they do now.

Q: But pre-Roe vs. Wade, some states had abortion on demand.

A: Well, they would not have anything under that situation that they don't have now. I mean, the gain would be on the pro-life side. I mean, they have Roe vs. Wade and all of the progeny from that already.

Source: Fox News Sunday: 2007 "Choosing the President" interviews Nov 25, 2007

Heart swayed by sonogram of his unborn child
[The abortion debate is] going to be ultimately won in the hearts and minds of people. I'm probably a pretty good example of that. Although my head and my legislative record's always been the same, when I saw that sonogram of my little now 4-year-old, it's changed my heart. It's changed the way I look at things. And I think life begins at conception. It was abstract to me before. I was a father earlier when I was very young. I was busy. One of the few advantages you have by getting a little bit older.
Source: Meet the Press: 2007 "Meet the Candidates" series Nov 4, 2007

No human Life Amendment; let states decide individually
Q: The 2004 Republican Party platform says: "We say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution." Could you run as a candidate on that platform?
A: No.

Q: You would not?

A: No. That's been my position the entire time I've been in politics. I thought Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided. I think this platform originally came out as a response to particularly Roe v. Wade because of that. Before Roe v. Wade, states made those decisions. I think people ought to be free at state and local levels to make decisions that even Fred Thompson disagrees with. That's what freedom is all about. I think Roe v. Wade hopefully one day will be overturned, and we can go back to the pre-Roe v. Wade days.

Q: Each state would make their own abortion laws.

A: Yeah. But to have an amendment going back even further than pre-Roe v. Wade, to have a constitutional amendment to do that, I do not think would be the way to go

Source: Meet the Press: 2007 "Meet the Candidates" series Nov 4, 2007

Life begins at conception, but allow early abortions
Q: You said in 1994 as a Senate candidate, "I'm not willing to support laws that prohibit early-term abortions. I'm not suddenly upon election as a senator going to know when life begins. It comes down to whether you believe life begins at conception. I don't know in my own mind if that is the case so I don't feel the law ought to impose that standard on other people." So you yourself don't know when life begins?
A: No. I didn't know then.

Q: You know now?

A: My public position has always been the same. I've been 100% pro-life in every vote that I've ever cast.

Q: Do you believe that life begins at conception, so abortion is the taking of a human life?

A: Yes, I do.

A: But you would allow abortion to be performed in states if chosen by states for people who think otherwise?

A: I do not think that you can have a law that cuts off an age group or something like that. It cannot change the way I feel about it morally, but legally and practically, I've got to recognize that fact.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Fred...n_Abortion.htm