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Holy Diver · 04-20-2011, 04:53 PM

Paul Ryan defends tax breaks for the rich and gets booed at town hall|Raw Replay

First thing's first, you KNOW the crowd was conservative/republican only. Secondly, I think we are finally seeing some people who believed in the front of what the TEA Party was telling you they wanted to do, and getting frustrated that the sacrafice, isn't shared.

TEA Partiers are waking up to the simple fact that they are being overlooked and stepped on by the very same people who funded the so called 'grass-roots' movement. The return on their emotional investment is bearing its fruit, and the fruit's name is REDISTRIBUTION TO THE ELITE.

The Ryan Budget could be the smelling salt these TEA party peeps need.

***DarrylS*** · 04-21-2011, 07:18 AM

When the Tea Party finally realizes that they have been pawns for the corporatists, they may become relevant.

This whole thing has been a grand diversion that takes away from the real issue, the American Plutocracy who have become more and more powerful.

Sooner someone will rise above the hysteria, cheerleading, Take Back America Tours and realize what the actual issues are with this country.

State · 04-27-2011, 06:56 AM

Getting booed may be a sign the man is taking a stand. Something most politicos won't do.

I happen to think this is exactly what we need. My only criticism is that he doesn't touch the military spending.

I'm afraid you guys are using this non-story--there's always hecklers for any public figure--to release your platitudes.

The real story is that Ryan is attracting large crowds and his message is obviously touching a chord with those who don't send spittle up to the rafters.

Overflow crowds for Paul Ryan town halls - Jennifer Haberkorn - POLITICO.com

BTW, Ryan had the CBO run the numbers of our projected budgets and deficits into the future. The computers crashed for the year 2037, which isn't that far away, showing that current trends are clearly unsustainable.

The modern welfare state is kaput. Paradoxically, it's premised, as Mark Steyn has written, on a above-replacement birth rate. Yet, the mathematical average college educated white woman in the US has only 1.7 babies in her lifetime, which is far below the 2.1 bare maintenance level.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 04-27-2011, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by State

Geting The real story is that Ryan is attracting large crowds and his message is obviously touching a chord with those who don't send spittle up to the rafters.

Yes, he is....and those non-spittlers were largely opposed the Ryan plan, holding signs such as “RyanCare = Dying Bare,” “Leave Medicare Alone” or simply, “Save Medicare!”

which, like it or not, has to tell you something.

Read more: Overflow crowds for Paul Ryan town halls - Jennifer Haberkorn - POLITICO.com

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The modern welfare state is kaput. Paradoxically, it's premised, as Mark Steyn has written, on a above-replacement birth rate. Yet, the mathematical average college educated white woman in the US has only 1.7 babies in her lifetime, which is far below the 2.1 bare maintenance level.

Explain, please. Do only the babies born to the "average college educated white woman in the US" count towards a replacement birth rate?

Is there some reason you are not counting the babies born to white non-college educated women or to black women or to hispanic women?

PatsFanInVa · 04-27-2011, 07:38 AM

Read Bowles-Simpson "The Moment of Truth" report.

Discuss.

I'm home on leave today, for those many patsfanners whose hobby is tracking my own personal posting habits. I may weigh back in.

Here's a hint, for State: We need to contain the growth of deficits and expand revenue, and we need to preserve progressivity in our tax rates.

Ryan's plan is idiotic, and his crowds see right through him. Your boys need to get a grip on where we are and stop with the war on the disadvantaged and the elderly.

No, a 85-year old on 24/7 oxygen is not a good candidate for affordable private insurance.... even if you give him a coupon.

Ryan's not budgeting, he's cost-shifting to the elderly and the poor, and telling them "you shouldn't get sicker than the coupon says."

PFnV

The Brandon Five · 04-27-2011, 09:55 AM

More Koch Brothers checks must have bounced. Why aren't all these people doing what they are paid to do (I am speaking of the Town Hall crowd)?

Holy Diver · 04-27-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Brandon Five

More Koch Brothers checks must have bounced. Why aren't all these people doing what they are paid to do (I am speaking of the Town Hall crowd)?

Have no worries, the Koch bros will be spending TONS to misinform people again.

They seem to be savvy...to a point, and what is unfolding is the result of a classic overplay by these brothers, and this mentality.

Slashing medicare is a classic overplay, Slashing workers rights is a classic overplay. Union workers, and seniors tend to ... you know .... vote.

Its refreshing to see an informed public, ask informed questions. Its funny to see a politician, armed with debunked talking points get debunked.

The Brandon Five · 04-27-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver

Have no worries, the Koch bros will be spending TONS to misinform people again.

They seem to be savvy...to a point, and what is unfolding is the result of a classic overplay by these brothers, and this mentality.

Slashing medicare is a classic overplay, Slashing workers rights is a classic overplay. Union workers, and seniors tend to ... you know .... vote.

Its refreshing to see an informed public, ask informed questions. Its funny to see a politician, armed with debunked talking points get debunked.

But will they outspend AFSCME, NEA, AFT and SEIU?

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 | OpenSecrets

Code:

Top 10 Heavy Hitters:    
ActBlue   	 $51,552,980
AFSCME	    	 $45,037,993
AT&T Inc   	 $40,800,955
NARealtors 	 $39,494,410
NEA 	         $36,188,345
SEIU 	         $35,854,539
AA for Justice   $33,664,771
IBEW 	         $32,920,954
Laborers Union 	 $31,183,767
AFT 	         $31,021,128

Koch Industries: Individual Contributors | OpenSecrets

Code:

Donor Name  				Total  		Soft Money  	Dems  	Repubs  	% to Dems  	% to Repubs
Koch, Charles G. & Elizabeth Buzzi 	$663,700 	$0 		$1,500 	$457,200 	0% 		69%
Koch, David H. & Julia F. 		$2,168,245 	$1,222,500 	$0 	$2,060,245 	0% 		95%

Holy Diver · 04-27-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Brandon Five

But will they outspend AFSCME, NEA, AFT and SEIU?

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 | OpenSecrets

Code:

Top 10 Heavy Hitters:    
ActBlue   	 $51,552,980
AFSCME	    	 $45,037,993
AT&T Inc   	 $40,800,955
NARealtors 	 $39,494,410
NEA 	         $36,188,345
SEIU 	         $35,854,539
AA for Justice   $33,664,771
IBEW 	         $32,920,954
Laborers Union 	 $31,183,767
AFT 	         $31,021,128

Koch Industries: Individual Contributors | OpenSecrets

Code:

Donor Name  				Total  		Soft Money  	Dems  	Repubs  	% to Dems  	% to Repubs
Koch, Charles G. & Elizabeth Buzzi 	$663,700 	$0 		$1,500 	$457,200 	0% 		69%
Koch, David H. & Julia F. 		$2,168,245 	$1,222,500 	$0 	$2,060,245 	0% 		95%

somehow you missed:

Americans for Prosperity

John Birch Society

Kansas Policy Institute

Reason Foundation & Reason Magazine

CATO Institute

Heritage Foundation

this might help:

NNDB Mapper

Holy Diver · 04-27-2011, 05:17 PM

Ryan dodges protesters in police car

Ryan dodges protesters in police car - Jennifer Haberkorn and Diane Webber - POLITICO.com

what a LOSER!