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04-10-2011, 07:08 PM
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How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
32 minute lecture by Geophysicist Vincent Courtillot, concise clear information.
linked through Wattsupwiththat website.
Courtillot on the solar UV climate connection | Watts Up With That?
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In the recent lecture below he explains how solar cycles control the climate by influence on cloud formation (the cosmic ray theory of Svensmark et al) and via influence on ocean oscillations and length of day. Dr. Courtillot notes that IPCC climate computer models do not correlate with observations and that temperature trends vary substantially between North America and Europe (which is contrary to IPCC computer model predictions).
He also notes that while the total solar irradiance (TSI) only varies by about .1% over a solar cycle, the solar UV varies by about 10% and that secondary effects on cloud formation may vary up to 30% over solar cycles.
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04-11-2011, 08:04 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
It seems that now no one will stick with the worn out MMGW scam eh...
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
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04-11-2011, 08:06 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
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It seems that now no one will stick with the worn out MMGW scam eh...
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interesting conclusion...
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04-11-2011, 08:19 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
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It seems that now no one will stick with the worn out MMGW scam eh...
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Why would you say that? What a silly thing to put up as evidence of some sort of consensus. Your claim is the opposite of the truth...again.
Your boy, besides being French, which makes him anti-American, happens to be a well-known member of the anti-MMGC crowd. What would you expect him to say? He is also well-known for being against the theory - I SAID THEORY- of the K/T mass extinction as opposed to the Yucatan asteroid impact THEORY. He's a contrarian. Not that there's anything wrong with that- as you know, I'm a bit of one myself. Fortunately, it doesn't matter much to us who is right about what happened to Triceratops.
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04-11-2011, 08:19 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
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interesting conclusion...
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Information challenging the 'consensus used to draw a response, not the past few times, of course since the link has a lot of real information perhaps no one would actually take the time to see the presentation?
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
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04-11-2011, 08:41 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
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Information challenging the 'consensus used to draw a response, not the past few times, of course since the link has a lot of real information perhaps no one would actually take the time to see the presentation?
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He has always opposed the notion of man-made global warming.
Partisans on both sides have constantly tried to misrepresent the real issues and questions regarding global warming.
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04-11-2011, 11:02 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
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He has always opposed the notion of man-made global warming.
Partisans on both sides have constantly tried to misrepresent the real issues and questions regarding global warming.
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What are the real issues and questions if you don't mind my asking.
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04-11-2011, 11:58 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
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What are the real issues and questions if you don't mind my asking.
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Does it exist?
If it does, is there cause for alarm?
If so, what are the causes / are human activities a cause?
If so, what can we do to reduce the trend or even reverse it?
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04-13-2011, 06:42 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
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Why would you say that? What a silly thing to put up as evidence of some sort of consensus. Your claim is the opposite of the truth...again.
Your boy, besides being French, which makes him anti-American, happens to be a well-known member of the anti-MMGC crowd. What would you expect him to say? He is also well-known for being against the theory - I SAID THEORY- of the K/T mass extinction as opposed to the Yucatan asteroid impact THEORY. He's a contrarian. Not that there's anything wrong with that- as you know, I'm a bit of one myself. Fortunately, it doesn't matter much to us who is right about what happened to Triceratops.
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Funny I never said anything about a consensus that is the MMGW morons who talk about a non existent consensus.
So since you can't comment on the issues the Prof raise you go the the personal attack on the guy you don't like but can't refute. Got it.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
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04-13-2011, 06:44 PM
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Re: How Solar Irradiance Controls Climate not CO2
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He has always opposed the notion of man-made global warming.
Partisans on both sides have constantly tried to misrepresent the real issues and questions regarding global warming.
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Really do you have a link for this assertion?
BTW would it matter as to whether his analysis and the issues he raises are valid..... of course not. Again an attack on the person absent a coherent refutation of the science presented.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
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