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The Brandon Five · 04-08-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chicowalker

So it was 7582 (versus 0?) in one account, 14315 (approx 11000-3000) in another.

Not really the point. (If anything, I'd think the #s in your example -- if there were 0 for the Dem -- were more questionable, no?)

If you think that concerns over election fraud existed 2 nights ago, but that no such concern should be raised over this, let's hear your argument.

Yup, that's just the number for Prosser:

Corrected Brookfield tally puts Prosser ahead after 7,500-vote gain - JSOnline

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Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus said Thursday that she failed to save on her computer and then report 14,315 votes in the city of Brookfield, omitting them entirely in an unofficial total she released after Tuesday's election. With other smaller errors in Waukesha County, Prosser gained 7,582 votes over his challenger, JoAnne Kloppenburg, leaving the sitting justice significantly ahead for now amid ongoing official counting.

"I'm thankful that this error was caught early in the process. This is not a case of extra ballots being found. This is human error which I apologize for," Nickolaus said, her voice wavering as she spoke to reporters.

The figures are still far from final in a race that had previously seemed almost certain to see a statewide recount. Around the state, elections officials Thursday were tweaking unofficial results from the day before that had put Kloppenburg, an assistant attorney general, ahead of Prosser by a razor-thin 204 votes.

But nothing compared to Brookfield, where the new totals give 10,859 more votes to Prosser and 3,456 more to Kloppenburg.

Mea culpa.

I am fine with this being vetted, as that seems pretty unusual. I also want the 10,000 or so ballots that only contained votes for the judicial part of the election looked at as that seems even more improbable.

Election Fraud Allegations Fly in Close Wisconsin Supreme Court Race - Wisconsin - Fox Nation

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On an estimated more than 10,000 ballots in Dane County, Wisconsin, where the state capital Madison is, voters selected only a pick in the Supreme Court race, while leaving even the hotly contested mayoral and county executive choices blank. That raises red flags for election experts like Scott St. Clair of the Freedom Foundation, a conservative think tank.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 04-08-2011, 10:20 AM

Here's where it gets "funny," and I don't mean funny ha-ha.

Wisconsin has a rule that there is a paid-for automatic recount if the difference between candidates is within a certain percentage.

Possner needed 7,400 votes to ensure that there would be no automatic recount.

How many did they "find," anyhow?

In WI, a recount at state-expense is triggered if an election is within .5% if the candidate requests it, and we have a fully verifiable paper trail to audit election results. That means in this election with approximately 740k for Kloppenburg and 739k for Prosser, the vote gets recounted at state-expense if the election is within ~7400 votes.

Daily Kos: Why Prosser needed EXACTLY +7500 votes....

How very serendipitous, yes?

chicowalker · 04-08-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Brandon Five

Yup, that's just the number for Prosser:
...Mea culpa.
...

No worries -- I wasn't positive which was right, and I truly didn't care which # it was.

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Originally Posted by The Brandon Five

...I am fine with this being vetted, as that seems pretty unusual. I also want the 10,000 or so ballots that only contained votes for the judicial part of the election looked at as that seems even more improbable....

Then we agree, as I would have expected.

I'm confident there's no reasonable way to be up in arms over the initial allegations but perfectly fine with the revised count.

***patsfan13*** · 04-08-2011, 02:20 PM

Article from the Milwaukee Sentential Journal on the Vote count amd vote canvass.

The Waukesha Surprise: a closer look at whether the 'missing' Brookfield vote adds up - JSOnline

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In the post below, I looked at what the new numbers mean for Waukesha County’s overall turnout picture, and suggested that they actually bring the Waukesha County totals more closely into line with similar nearby counties.

In short, before the “adjustment,” Waukesha County was a big outlier. It showed by far the largest drop-off in turnout between the 2010 race for governor last fall and Tuesday’s judicial race (from about 63% to 37%, for a decline of 26 points). After the adjustment, the drop-off is still one of the biggest in the state (from 63% to 42%), but not freakishly so. The statewide drop-off in turnout rate was 16 points, from 50% to 34%.

Turnout for the county with the votes for this city factored in came closer to mormal. The county was 9th in the state including these votes last election it was 2nd in turnout. Dane county was the highest.

***reflexblue*** · 04-08-2011, 02:32 PM

Wisconsin court race won't be certified without vote probe | Reuters

(Reuters) - The agency overseeing Wisconsin elections will not certify results of Tuesday's state Supreme Court race until it concludes a probe into how a county clerk misplaced and then found some 14,000 votes that upended the contest.

Michael Haas, Government Accountability Board staff attorney, told Reuters on Friday the watchdog agency was looking into vote tabulation errors in Republican-leaning Waukesha County which gave the conservative incumbent a net gain of more than 7,000 votes -- a lead his union-backed challenger seems unlikely to

***patsfan13*** · 04-08-2011, 03:06 PM

Sounds good to me the Dems on the Board of elections said everything was above board. The confusion was when AP wasn't updated about the city.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 04-08-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

Sounds good to me the Dems on the Board of elections said everything was above board.

Is this an acknowledgment that Dems are generally correct in the things they say therefore you have no reason to doubt them whenever they tell you that everything is "above board?"

Or is this an isolated incident?

***patsfan13*** · 04-08-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Is this an acknowledgment that Dems are generally correct in the things they say therefore you have no reason to doubt them whenever they tell you that everything is "above board?"

Or is this an isolated incident?

Well as I said I would like a full investigation into the goings on in Dane county, The city where ballots were destroyed and why the AP wasn't updated and the votes from the 'missing' city weren't included until the canvassing of the votes.

***DarrylS*** · 04-09-2011, 05:22 AM

This lady has a history of incompetence and shady dealings.. so spare the crocodile tears, she should have been replaced, but suspect that she is a political hack..

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The evidence shows that Nickolaus is a partisan GOP operative, but the evidence also reveals a long history of incompetence on her part. Here is what we know about Kathy Nickolaus:

•Prosser is Nickolaus’ Former Boss: Throughout the 1990s, Nickolaus worked for the Wisconsin State Assembly’s Republican Caucus. For much of that time, Justice Prosser was the GOP Minority Leader and then the Speaker of the Assembly. So Prosser was Nickolaus’ boss.

•Nickolaus Received Immunity For Testimony On A Campaign Scandal: In 2001, the partisan caucuses in the state legislature were investigated for alleged illegal use of state resources to secretly run campaigns. Nickolaus received immunity in return for her testimony about her role in this scandal.

•Nickolaus Has Blown Vote Counts In The Past: Nickolaus once posted the wrong outcome in a local school board race, before her error was caught and the correct outcome was posted.

•Nickolaus Was Audited After She Moved Official Data To Her Personal Computers: Her county’s Executive Committee ordered an audit of her office after they discovered that she “removed the election results collection and tallying system from the county computer network . . . and installed it on standalone personal computers in her office.

PatsFanInMaine · 04-09-2011, 09:25 AM

Driving down from the County yesterday and the only radio station that came in clear for awhile was the liberal station out of Bangor and this was getting discussed. Almost drove off the road when this one caller started to complain. His beef wasn’t with the votes that were fraudulent - he conceded that they were probably legal votes - his beef was that he felt the votes were purposely held back by the republicans and didn’t allow for the other reporting districts enough information about the vote totals statewide that would allow them to "manage" their respective county's returns before they sent them to the state.