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***Harry Boy*** · 04-06-2011, 06:41 AM

Is Crackheads health care anything like this *****.

BBC News - Surgeons raise alarm over waiting

The Brandon Five · 04-06-2011, 10:37 AM

Not yet. 2013.

chicowalker · 04-06-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy

Is Crackheads health care anything like this *****.
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harry, are you upset that the quality of your government-subsidized healthcare is going to be impaired because other people start getting government-subsidized healthcare, too?

State · 07-14-2011, 03:07 PM

These stories happen all the time, but no one in the American media cares or bothers. They're too in the tank for the current POTUS.

Check this out: Sure to Be Omitted from Our Media: U.K. Hospital Horror Story of Dragging a Dead Guy Like an Animal | NewsBusters.org

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Peter Thompson, 41, was left in a corridor for ten hours before someone noticed he had passed away. In a final act of indignity, hospital auxiliaries pulled his lifeless body across the floor in a manner his family described as like "dragging a dead animal."

The scenes which shame the NHS [National Health Service] were all captured on CCTV. Staff thought Mr. Thompson was merely drunk and left him to "sleep it off."

Yesterday a coroner condemned the death as "wholly preventable."

An inquest heard that the father-of-one, who had consumed a ****tail of drink and drugs, could have been saved had he received emergency treatment.

Read more: Sure to Be Omitted from Our Media: U.K. Hospital Horror Story of Dragging a Dead Guy Like an Animal | NewsBusters.org

I hear about these listening to BBC podcasts. One of the regs over there is that once a patient has been brought into an emergency room for emergency care the clock is ticking. There's a time limit that that person has to be seen.

But hospitals get away from complying with the spirit of this by keeping patients outside in the parking lot inside an ambulance until they are ready to see them in a fashion to comply with the regulation.

It's like gosplan in the Soviet Union.

Patients forced to wait hours in ambulances parked outside A&E departments - Telegraph

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Experts warn that hospitals are deliberately delaying when they accept patients – or are diverting them to different sites – in order to meet Government targets to treat people within fours hours of admitting them.

The extent of the problems have been revealed in correspondence between senior health officials, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, which also show their serious concerns about the dangers the delays pose to patients.

A letter by Sir Graham Meldrum, chairman of West Midlands Ambulance Service, sent to hospital chief executives last November warns that patients are "being put at risk on a daily basis", with 7,600 patients a month facing delays of more than 30 minutes – a situation which has since deteriorated, with more than 8,000 such delays in March.

This is in 2009.

Is this what we want here?

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 07-14-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by State

This is in 2009.

Is this what we want here?

But wait!!!

We beat them to it!!

Tape shows woman dying on waiting room floor
July 01, 2008

A 49-year-old woman collapsed and died on the floor of a waiting room at a Brooklyn psychiatric hospital and lay there for more than an hour as employees ignored her, according to the New York Civil Liberties Union, which on Tuesday released surveillance camera video of the incident.

Esmin Green was involuntarily admitted to the psychiatric emergency department of Kings County Hospital Center on June 18 for what the hospital describes as "agitation and psychosis."

Upon her admission, Green waited nearly 24 hours for treatment, said the civil liberties union, which was among the groups filing suit against the facility last year seeking improved conditions for patients

***Wolfpack*** · 07-14-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa

But wait!!!

We beat them to it!!

Tape shows woman dying on waiting room floor
July 01, 2008

Nothing more current than 3 years old?

Come on - you can do better than that.

JackBauer · 07-14-2011, 03:32 PM

Hey, look. Horror stories!

2nd Arizona Patient Dies After State Budget Cuts Deny Transplant

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 07-14-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Nothing more current than 3 years old?

Come on - you can do better than that.

But if I'm trying to show that we were letting people die in our ERs first (before 2009) what good would it do me to find something which happened after that?

State · 07-14-2011, 03:37 PM

I miss the days of Apple Strudel pointing out the logical fallacies--even as he freely engaged in his own.

Your comparing apples to orange, darling.

One is a psychiatric hospital where people sit on the faeces and drool for hours on end.

The story I referenced was a regular emergency ward where victim of knifes slashes come in for treatment.

***Wolfpack*** · 07-14-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa

But if I'm trying to show that we were letting people die in our ERs first (before 2009) what good would it do me to find something which happened after that?

Hey, what ever happened to you holding your hands over your ears yelling "I can't hear you I can't hear you!" at me? I think I much preferred it that way.

Few things are more pathetic than someone who goes out of their way to point out they have someone on "ignore" when it turns out that they don't have that person on ignore.