Harry Boy

I grew up in Black/White neighborhood, that term was used many many times but of course this was back in the "Forties/Fifties" I can't remember the word "Shuck" being used as much as the word "Jive" was.

Now, all you "wonderful Liberals" don't get all huffy and self rightious at what I am about to say because this was "the way that it was", pay attention now before you start blubbering about what a Racist I am, all I am doing is passing some of my superior knowledge on to you.

The word "Shuck" I don't remember much about but it was used I think the Southern Blacks brought it up with them from the Corn Fields.

The word "Jive" was used in the world of music it was considered "Cool" to be able to "Jive" it meant real hot dancing, the young Blacks in those days were the masters of "Jiving"

Then, the word "Jive" became very popular in the Black Community and soon the young Black Males in our High School and on our city streets were jokingly calling each other "Jive A$s N-ggers", they called each other that if we called them that it meant one thing, you had to fight them unless you were a very close "white kid" then you also could say it, that saying started out as a compliment to the more musically talented among them then as time passed it became a term for "street punk".

Like it or not "Shuck & Jive" was used but not in recent years, some of todays more popular ones are
"Ho's & B!tches & Mother F-ckers" these to will come to pass and "new ones" will be introduced.

I wonder if the Poiltically Correct Wonderful Liberals will consider me racist (again) for reporting that FACT if they do, so be it, but thats the way that it was in my neighborhood.

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wistahpatsfan

"White Party"?
Jeeziz, Patters. You're really dug-in on this "Republicans are racist" thing, huh?
I voted for Reagan once...once! It was my first time voting. I'm not a huge fan because of the bullsh-t he pulled in Central America and his insane military spending, but at least he had restraint and really knew how to work other leaders, none better than Gorbachev. Tip O'Niel liked him a lot and I doubt Tip would have been his friend if he had an inkling that Reagan was a racist.
Do you have any link to support your statements or perceptions?

Patters

Hopefully you'll find this Wikipedia article adequate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Republicans aren't racist, but the Republican Party exploited race to win many elections, and thus has very little support in the black community.

wistahpatsfan

Thanks.
I learned a lot of history from that one article. I didn't know much about that "program" and now I do. There were some weasles in politics back then as well as now. I don't believe that shows that Reagan was a racist, though.

However, I have to point out that it is history. Neither side of the Republicrat party desires to play racial politics today.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071302342.html

It was called "the southern strategy," started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue -- on matters such as desegregation and busing -- to appeal to white southern voters.
Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, this morning will tell the NAACP national convention in Milwaukee that it was "wrong."
"By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out," Mehlman says in his prepared text. "Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

Patters

Wistah, the Republican Party, like the Democratic one, is pragmatic, but ultimately it will have to make some tough choices. If it wants to win over blacks, Latinos, gays, and other groups where it lags, it will have to offer something. Like it or not, many groups perceive themselves as being discriminated against, and the Republicans have not really responded to that. Appointing people like Condi, Colin, and Clarence may demonstrate that they no longer exclude conservative blacks, but they have a long way to go to convince blacks and other minorities that they have their interests in mind. The Republican Party, with its tax cuts, elimination of the "death" tax, support for racial profiling, etc. seems to be protecting the landed elite, rather than trying to expand equality.

Fogbuster

How does a "tax cut" support the "landed elite"??? If someone makes 10,000 or 10,000,000 million a year, a "tax cut" just puts more of their hard-earned money back into their pocket, instead of going to some trough to over-pay a Boston Big Dig or a perpetual "highway construction" project on I-95 in Connecticut.

Everybody should contribute *something* reasonable to the public benefit -- for roads, fire departments, police, essentials for public safety and protection. But all the other frills and extras are mostly for the benefit of a very few, at the expense of the many.

You cannot force people to be moral or ethical. People can find a way to get around the laws, and they do so every single day. People need to know the benefits and the consequences of their choices BEFORE they decide to do something that will hurt or damage others, as well as themselves in the long run.

We need education of values, what is good and why, what is bad and why. We do NOT need "more taxes". Throwing money at a fire only makes a bigger fire. We need to apply water to a raging inferno, and we need to apply heat when the chill of winter sets in; and we need to know when each is happening, an appreciation that is not as obvious as it seems on the surface.

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wistahpatsfan

It may seem that way, but the Dems are just as bad, IMO. I just see the world a little differently, Patters. We both see people as they are, black, white gay, straight...it's really all the same to me. I could give a damn. However, for me, there are only two different types of people. There are those who can control their own lives and those who can't. I can feel sympathy for someone who's in a bad situation but only to a point. Whatever perceived problem someone thinks they have, it has no weight compared to someone whose body doesn't work properly through no fault of their own. While we fret and scream about the rights of gays, Latinos or fat people, our society turns its back at every level on the profoundly disabled and their families. I'm not just talking about the government. I'm talking about everyone from Congress to schools to the families of disabled people. They are truly at the bottom of society's priority list.

So pardon the diatribe, but the loud whining of these self-proclaimed "victims" too often drowns out the wimpers and polite pleas of so many of our disabled brothers and sisters in this country.

Harry Boy

Why is it perfectly acceptable for the majority of the Black Community to vote for a Black candidate and in some cases even encouraged.

Why is it considered Racism if a majority of whites vote for a white candidate.

Isn't Racism a "Two Way Street" isn't it Racism when the all the Black People that supported Pant Suit Hillary suddenly turn on her in this election simply beacuse her opponent is Black (Oprah) Pant Suits Husband was considered America's "First Black President" now those that gave him that title are turning on him and voting for a "Real Black Man"---Isn't That Racist?

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Patters

The majority defines the minority as a minority. In studies where people are asked to define their identity, white people rarely include their skin color, while people of color do. If you're not part of a minority, then you take for granted the advantages you have and you're less aware of the disadvantages that minorities have.

I'm in complete agreement with you about the disabled. Not surprisingly, it took a disabled Republican (Dole) to gather enough Republican support to pass the Democratic-sponsored Americans With Disabilities Act. But, still our society looks down upon the disabled, but at least now, unlike gays, they can't be legally discriminated against in 32 states. Nonetheless, the disabled, like other minorities often choose their workplace and community not based on where they want to live, but based on where they'll be accepted.

wistahpatsfan

WTF are you talking about? Being gay is nowhere near as difficult in any way as being disabled. Think about what you're talking about.