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Old 03-25-2011, 06:10 AM   #11
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You should shop at Trader Joes...hardly any Italians there.

Here's an oldie but along the same lines:

"From the first of January to the first of July, the number of emigrants landed at this port alone, is fourteen thousand six hundred and seventy-four, and up to the present time may be computed at upwards of fifteen thousand; and as the winter months are generally unfavorable to emigration, we are safe in estimating the number which will arrive here in the year 1835, at thirty thousand.

If, however, we take the round number of thirty thousand emigrants, annually landing in our city, and with the self-augmenting population, arising from that capital, how long will it be that American citizens can retain the destinies of their country in their own hands? The emigration annually doubles the number of our births, and when added to the foreign power already here, which never can throw off attachments to their home and government, it presents a fearful increase of political power; for, unless our naturalization laws are altered, and foreigners placed on a footing with our own sons, this city and state, and probably the whole Union, will be under the control of foreign governments in a few years. Let Americans look at these things in time, and keep the staff in their own hands.- N.Y. Star."


Some things naver change.
From a practical and responsible POV, I think the US should consider limitting immigration (cutting it down significantly) in order to control our growing population.

First of all, we can't afford to provide public $$ and housing to them on a large-scale basis. I'd prefer to see that money spent helping natural-born citizens finance their college education. That's a huge growing issue in our country.

Stopping "Illegal Immigration" should be priority #1. I don't think anyone can provide a logical, fact-based argument that supports NOT taking action on illegal immigration.

Also, on Legal immigration, if we don't have a policy on allowing a balanced influx of people from various areas of the world, we should start. In other words, we shouldn't allow 50% of our immigrants to be from South America, 20% from Europe, etc. I think the goal should be a balanced and diverse American society. So I don't think allowing one segment to grow faster than the others is a good idea.

Yikes!!! Is someone going to call me a socialist for supporting "Social-Planning"?
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Hispanic population exceeds 50 million

Will this cause a rise in Christianity, Hispanics are very religious (the crucifix hangs in most hispanic homes a picture of Jesus hangs over many beds) also is this Bad News for homosexuality and Gay Marriage.

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From a practical and responsible POV, I think the US should consider limitting immigration (cutting it down significantly) in order to control our growing population.

First of all, we can't afford to provide public $$ and housing to them on a large-scale basis. I'd prefer to see that money spent helping natural-born citizens finance their college education. That's a huge growing issue in our country.

Stopping "Illegal Immigration" should be priority #1. I don't think anyone can provide a logical, fact-based argument that supports NOT taking action on illegal immigration.

Also, on Legal immigration, if we don't have a policy on allowing a balanced influx of people from various areas of the world, we should start. In other words, we shouldn't allow 50% of our immigrants to be from South America, 20% from Europe, etc. I think the goal should be a balanced and diverse American society. So I don't think allowing one segment to grow faster than the others is a good idea.

Yikes!!! Is someone going to call me a socialist for supporting "Social-Planning"?
If Americans and their owners were serious about controlling immigration they would. Americans do not want to pick lettuce and clean toilets (at least not yet) and their owners need someone who do. What is wrong with South Americans?
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They're procreating they're way to the top.
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You should shop at Trader Joes...hardly any Italians there.

Here's an oldie but along the same lines:

"From the first of January to the first of July, the number of emigrants landed at this port alone, is fourteen thousand six hundred and seventy-four, and up to the present time may be computed at upwards of fifteen thousand; and as the winter months are generally unfavorable to emigration, we are safe in estimating the number which will arrive here in the year 1835, at thirty thousand.

If, however, we take the round number of thirty thousand emigrants, annually landing in our city, and with the self-augmenting population, arising from that capital, how long will it be that American citizens can retain the destinies of their country in their own hands? The emigration annually doubles the number of our births, and when added to the foreign power already here, which never can throw off attachments to their home and government, it presents a fearful increase of political power; for, unless our naturalization laws are altered, and foreigners placed on a footing with our own sons, this city and state, and probably the whole Union, will be under the control of foreign governments in a few years. Let Americans look at these things in time, and keep the staff in their own hands.- N.Y. Star."


Some things naver change.


1 thing changed since that article, the welfare state and the cost associated with it. Earlier waves of immigration the newcomers had to work to eat and have a place to live now the option exist to live off other taxpayers.
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I was in Market Basket today and of the 30 people around me in the different registers, maybe 5 spoke a dozen words of english or more. Forget that though, cuz maybe they're all here legally. The problem is that virtually everyone who couldn't speak english, was paying with WIC, EBT, food stamps...WTF is that? Why let people into this country if all they're going to do is cost the hard working money? If they aren't legal, which we know most aren't, then why are they getting freebies? Anyone ever ask Auntie Zuchinni that?
It alway amazes the rhetoric of the right who love children when they are in the fetus, after they come out into the world.. f.. those little baztards.

WIC is specifically for low income mothers and can only be used on milk, juice, cereal and dairy products... the thought is that healthy babies have less medical problems and this helps the US Dairy Industry...

EBT and Food Stamps, it is usually one or another, once again these programs are limited to groceries and benefit our agriculture industry.. the Food Stamp program is a program of the US Dept of Agriculture, and is administered by them. Did you ever think why???

One does not need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out..
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If Americans and their owners were serious about controlling immigration they would. Americans do not want to pick lettuce and clean toilets (at least not yet) and their owners need someone who do. What is wrong with South Americans?
South Americans were just an example. We shouldn't allow 50% of our immigrants to be from any particular area, including Europe. And based upon Real World, we definately don't want to increase our Italian population!

I think it's a practical goal to reduce immigration if it's costing us too much. How many immediately get federal support? I'm just throwing some ideas out there Wistah. I'm concerned about federal spending, illegal immigration and our growing population.

I don't think we afford to be the nation of ...

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At some point, immigration can have negative financial effects upon our citizens. It's not the 1800's any more.
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At some point, immigration can have negative financial effects upon our citizens. It's not the 1800's any more.
It will turn us into another third world ***** hole it has already started.
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This thread is full of fail ... rife with racism ... no comment.
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At some point, immigration can have negative financial effects upon our citizens. It's not the 1800's any more.
Ronnie Raygun changed that forever.. amnesty for illegals was his brainchild.
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