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Old 01-17-2008, 12:41 AM   #21
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great... so why don't you keep your displeasure with that post in that particular thread? what does it have to do with this thread? and why would you post this HERE?:

i mean, what does that have to do with this thread? why wouldn't you post such in the other thread you're complaining about here? it's really very simple, Fog... please try and follow along in your unbridled rage... we're all here for you... but, focus...

as for fascism... i didn't bait you to "defend it"... i bait you to condemn it... instead, it's your silence that defends it, based on your compulsive and adamant defense of the Bush Administration and it's long history of fraud, lies, cover-ups, and bill signings ... again, try and focus, and stick with what i actually said, not what you think i meant...

as for your insulting hypothetical regarding my girlfriend, how utterly YOU, "holy" man... but, moreover, that's a laughable analogy, considering i have no history of that, whereas people like YOU have a vast, VAST, documented history of sticking up for Boy King signing statements, state secrecy, and lies that have enable imperialism and the push towards transnational fascism...

good try, however...unfortunately, you're up against a poster who 1) is meticulous and tireless when dealing with lying, disingenuous religious zealots; 2) doesn't rely on an isolated and curious slant on the Holy Bible for his entire code of negotiable ethics and morals...


So, as usual, Pressboy keeps up with the baits, the taunts, the inciting to riot, then pleads innocent when the proof is presented.

Fine. You just do what you do, with your baiting and taunting and accusing and all that kind of bowels of hell action. People ignore your stupid posts because your posts are unworthy of response.

But, you already knew that.


If you don't want to be "insulted" then you should not insult others by inferring they accept "fascism".

Anyway, you can keep on supporting guys like Paul and Kucinich, but you can never be surprised when others don't follow your trip down to la-la land.


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Old 01-17-2008, 12:47 AM   #22
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So, as usual, Pressboy keeps up with the baits, the taunts, the inciting to riot, then pleads innocent when the proof is presented.

Fine. You just do what you do, with your baiting and taunting and accusing and all that kind of bowels of hell action. People ignore your stupid posts because your posts are unworthy of response.

But, you already knew that.


If you don't want to be "insulted" then you should not insult others by inferring they accept "fascism".

Anyway, you can keep on supporting guys like Paul and Kucinich, but you can never be surprised when others don't follow your trip down to la-la land.

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LOL... you didn't address a single point in my thread... in fact, you further strawmanned it... why am i not surprised?...

i didn't keep up with a taunt at all... i clarified your warped assessment of my message and asked you why you can't keep your threads straight... again, perhaps you can't read, but i didn't bait you do defend a fascist ruling, i bait you to condemn it... which you REFUSE to do... and that speaks volumes...

anyhow, i'll keep on supporting guys who actually read and voted down the Patriot Act, and you can keep on supporting guys who vow to serve you up the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the blockage of gay marriage on a platter...

neither of our men has a chance, but at least we'll stay on principle...

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Old 01-17-2008, 04:00 AM   #23
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LOL... you didn't address a single point in my thread... in fact, you further strawmanned it... why am i not surprised?...

i didn't keep up with a taunt at all... i clarified your warped assessment of my message and asked you why you can't keep your threads straight... again, perhaps you can't read, but i didn't bait you do defend a fascist ruling, i bait you to condemn it... which you REFUSE to do... and that speaks volumes...

anyhow, i'll keep on supporting guys who actually read and voted down the Patriot Act, and you can keep on supporting guys who vow to serve you up the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the blockage of gay marriage on a platter...

neither of our men has a chance, but at least we'll stay on principle...


Unfortunately, I had to address the only point of importance there is: your unfailing tendency to always make things personal, to bait and taunt with almost every single one of your posts. Then, when you get whipped yet again in a debate of substance you go off and sulk, waiting for the opportunity to pounce again, with your Reich names, 'FASCIST' names, and on and on.

You try to wrap yourself up in the Constitution, but if any of the Founders had behaved the way you do, we'd be celebrating Boxing Day every year instead of the Fourth of July Independence Day.

Why don't you go live in Venezuela or China for a while, see what real Left-Wing FASCISM is like. Something to consider.


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Old 01-17-2008, 06:26 AM   #24
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Unfortunately, I had to address the only point of importance there is: your unfailing tendency to always make things personal, to bait and taunt with almost every single one of your posts. Then, when you get whipped yet again in a debate of substance you go off and sulk, waiting for the opportunity to pounce again, with your Reich names, 'FASCIST' names, and on and on.

You try to wrap yourself up in the Constitution, but if any of the Founders had behaved the way you do, we'd be celebrating Boxing Day every year instead of the Fourth of July Independence Day.

Why don't you go live in Venezuela or China for a while, see what real Left-Wing FASCISM is like. Something to consider.

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one thing i don't do here is sulk or "go off and wait"... if i leave you to your hissy fits, rest assured it's merely because i have a life to attend to, while you sit in front of your computer for hours on end giving sermons to no one... what's funny is that you can recognize anyone's behavior but your own.. you're remorseless and ignorant to your own nasty diatribes... i documented them all earlier, but you punted by changing the subject pretending you didn't see it and getting even more angry...

oh, and by the way... fascism is inherently RIGHT wing... the merging of the corporation and the state... get it right, righty...

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oh, and by the way... fascism is inherently RIGHT wing... the merging of the corporation and the state... get it right, righty...
That's not true. Besides the right and left scale of politics (a horizontal x axis you could say), there is a north-south (y axis) of political orientation. Not sure which is up and which is down, but basically one direction is authoritarian and the other is libertarian. It's like a graph. You could be left wing and way far on the authoritarian scale, which could be considered facist. The American Libertarian party and neocons like Bush are both right wing, but one is authoritarian and one is libertarian. Saying that facism is limited to either politcal side isn't quite correct.

EDIT: http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 is an example of this. It's a like more complicated than most people think.

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That's not true. Besides the right and left scale of politics (a horizontal x axis you could say), there is a north-south (y axis) of political orientation. Not sure which is up and which is down, but basically one direction is authoritarian and the other is libertarian. It's like a graph. You could be left wing and way far on the authoritarian scale, which could be considered facist. The American Libertarian party and neocons like Bush are both right wing, but one is authoritarian and one is libertarian. Saying that facism is limited to either politcal side isn't quite correct.

EDIT: http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2 is an example of this. It's a like more complicated than most people think.
That's a cool analogy and reminds me something very similar I learned in a college course years ago. It's a very true and useful visual, but most politically interested people still only see things in terms of left and right. It's like the presently acceptable twist on American foreign policy that allows the executive branch to wage war in sovereign countries pretty much without provocation or cause, which to me is a radical departure from our traditions, yet most will attribute that behavior to a "conservative" set of rules - which it isn't. Same goes for the fascist tendencies in the "left" that include insistence on political correctness and centralization of things like education and behavioral legislation.
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