Titus Pullo

This is straw man creation, and I think you know it.

But as always for drill baby drill types: When backed into a corner, change the game.

The Brandon Five

The Gulf Coast is not the only "shore" in the U.S. Google "Alaska".

Proven reserves-

U.S.: 19,120,000,000 barrels (not including ANWR)
Brazil: 13,200,000,000 barrels

Isn't Brazil like the mothership for greenies? No worries about fouling the "lungs of the planet"?

The Brandon Five

It's a straw man to ask for your alternative plan?

Titus Pullo

Link please. It should be standard forum chat fare when asserting statistics.

Regardless, being the insatiable locusts that we are in this paradigm of "consume everything", it must be extracted from everywhere. Not just Brazil.

The Brandon Five

Sorry.

CIA World Factbook - Country Comparison :: Oil - proved reserves

I really am trying to understand your position here. You are saying that we need to drill off Brazil because we are "insatiable locusts", thus the perfectly rational position of Obama to do so. To ban any offshore drilling for the U.S. at the same time is not explained by that principle.

Real World

It's absolutely moronic is what it is. We need oil. Everyone knows that. We don't have a viable replacement. Everyone knows that too. So yet we ban harvesting it from our own lands for reasons that somehow don't exist when we look to buy it from the lands of others. Makes a lot of sense to me.

We should be exploring for, and harvesting our own, while working on a serious long term plan to move us to an alternative. Be it hydrogen or whatever. These things take time and planning. They take forward thinking and preparation. We have none of that in place. All we do is shoot ourselves in the foot by paying foreign countries a large chunk of money, to give us something we probably don't even need. Certainly not the extent we see today.

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Titus Pullo

You were challenged to compare the proven reserves in the Brazil pocket in question with the proven reserves alluded to in the Gulf area.

You then changed the equation to total proven reserves for each country.

The point is, the Tupi field is the world's largest concentrated find in over 30 years. That's why it receives investment. Of course our oil is also going to eventually be drilled. But when you're referring to tiny fields like the Macondo Prospect (below Deepwater Horizon), is it really worth it to build all that infrastructure and set up shop over each little pocket that's going to provide 30-50 million barrels (1/2 a day's worth of global energy)? It's just not cost effective, and Big Oil knows this.

Big oil gets excited about proven reserve totals in the billions, not millions.

The Brandon Five

You wanted me to guess what you were referencing?

I used total reserves because, as I stated, the Gulf is not the only offshore site impacted. How much us in ANWR?

So the ban is to save companies from themselves?

Big oil gets excited about proven reserve totals in the billions, not millions.[/QUOTE]

patsfan13

The US has the largest energy reserves in the world.

Energy Tribune- U.S. Has Earth?s Largest Energy Resources

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reflexblue

Its Coal NOT oil you fail........again unless somehow we can develop a technology that transform coal into oil cheaply.