IcyPatriot

.... Hooray for their brave public opinions.

Liberal Democrats in uproar over Libya action - John Bresnahan and Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com

chicowalker

Good -- it's always refreshing to see pols who don't just toe the party line.

shirtsleeve

I posted up a couple more links in NUT's thread. Same story, different day. Same old intervention, except the people pulling the strings are different, the agenda is different, the end game is different, and the stooges to be instilled are different.

IcyPatriot

Love to know who are the string pullers ...

shirtsleeve

Well, it seems the French, and an over reaching UN are the face of this one.

DarrylS

kucinich is calling for impeachment, that is what is different about the Dems... many times they do not just follow.

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Real World

He's not calling for impeachment. I saw him on TV last night and he was asked about it. He wants no part of that. He wants to defund the operation. Remember though Kucinich is the guy who said he wouldn't kill Bin Laden. He is opposed to force, or death, in virtually all manners. That being said, it is good to see some dems voice their disdain for the process the president seems to have ignored with respect to congress. It's made me wonder where the limitations of the presidents authority are. Can he do what he did here, or is this indeed a violation of the constitutional process? I honestly don't know the legal answer to that.

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Nikolai

That's actually a good question, and one I'd finally like to see go to the Supreme Court (however that would work in this case, and if the SC can be trusted to make a non-partisan decision). We've been involved in too many "wars that aren't wars".

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chicowalker

I think what he did is in compliance with the War powers Act. From my 1Am read of that while watching the Celts ( ), the language in that is pretty vague -- I'm guessing intentionally.

shirtsleeve claims in another thread that the act is unconstitutional, and I think many people feel that was, but I don't think it's ever been challenged. Neither party seems to want to go there.

Interestingly, Boehner is defending Obama (while wanting better reporting) while Kucinich and other further left Dems are criticizing him.

(I think what Obama did here is pretty similar to Reagan's actions in Grenada, though I certainly couldd be wrong.)

Gainzo

It sure is.

Just like some of the new Republican's in the House who have voted against party lines since they came to office.