Patters

Thank God Japan has the stringent sort of safety regulations that may prevent a meltdown. But, nuclear energy has failed nonetheless. During this horrific time of crisis in Japan, the government has had to devote major resources to the nuclear crisis, there is no quick replacement for the nuclear energy, and there are explosions being felt miles away. But, the psychological impact, especially given Truman's atrocities against Japanese civilians, must be severe. Imagine the terror that people who are hungry, have lost everything, have lost loved ones must feel knowing that they are surrounded by failing nuclear plants. Between the earthquake, the tsunami, and the explosions at nuclear plants, this is a trauma that must rival that of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Real World

Poor Frauders. Ignorant of both reality, and history itself.


Thank god for Truman. His courage in making an extremely difficult decision, something only genuine leaders do, no doubt saved hundreds of thousands of lives.




Did someone say atrocities?




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Nanking Massacre

From Wikipedia

The Nanking Massacre or Nanjing Massacre, also known as the Rape of Nanking, was a mass murder and war rape that occurred during the six-week period following the Japanese capture of the city of Nanjing (Nanking), the former capital of the Republic of China, on December 13, 1937 during the Second Sino-Japanese War. During this period, hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians and disarmed soldiers were murdered and 20,000–80,000 women were raped[1] by soldiers of the Imperial Japanese Army.[2][3][4]


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Japanese vets admit on film to Nanjing atrocities

Last Updated: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 | 2:17 PM ET CBC News Back to

Japanese director Tamaki Matsuoka, shown in Hong Kong on Tuesday, has fought to make her fellow citizens aware of Japan's wartime record of atrocities. (Vincent Yu/Associated Press) Activist Tamaki Matsuoka is challenging Japanese perceptions of the country's war record with a new documentary on the atrocities known as the Rape of Nanking.

Her film, Torn Memories of Nanjing, combines the memories of Japanese war veterans with accounts by Chinese survivors of the massacres of 1937-38, after Japan captured the former capital city of Nanking.

The film was shown at the Hong Kong International Film Festival on Sunday in its first screening outside Japan.

In the documentary, Matsuoka captures former soldiers admitting for the first time to mass rape and to the masscre of unarmed civilians in Nanking, which is now called Nanjing.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Patters

Real, where I come from the murder of civilians in the name of war is called terrorism.

There is ample evidence that the Japanese were defeated. Besides there is no justification for killing tens of thousands of the elderly, women, and children, but then perhaps you're more afraid of those groups than I am. But, as to your point, American propaganda does fool some of the people some of the time. Do you believe Washington never told a lie?

patsfan13

Tell that to the families of the troops killed on Okinawa weeks before the bomb was dropped and don't forget the sight of women and children committing suicide to avoid 'capture' by the Americans.


Speaking of deliberate atrocities there is UNIT 731.


What happened there is terrible bringing up Turman is totally out of place IMO. Glad the reactors vessels are secure so far.

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Real World

Please. You're as ignorant of reality as would be an infant son. The Japs, very unlike they are now, were absolute savages then. The notion that they would have happily surrendered without a single shot fired is insulting to one's intelligence. It was a regrettable and unfortunate action for sure, but one that was required none the less. If it comes down to saving the lives of allies, at the cost of ending those of the japanese, I choose the allies 100 times out of 100. That is the unfortunate reality. Something that you can't understand because you simply can never grasp what's real.

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Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Nikolai

Where I come from, it has different labels that more accurately describe what actually happened, so that we can learn from it. What the Japanese did is called Total War. Horrific, yes. Terrorism, no.

Calling everything bad in war terrorism is like calling everything left of center communism during the 1950s.

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Nikolai

I agree it's tasteless, but like Gifford's shooting taught us, people will stoop to all kinds of levels to get in a political shot. I can't imagine why we have a toxic environment in Washington today.

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Patters

Oh, come on, the "Japs" were "savages"? If that's not racist stereotyping on your part I don't know what is.

No one said that the Japanese would have happily surrendered, but they were negotiating, and many people felt the mass murder of civilians was unnecessary. That said, there was a concerted propaganda campaign to rewrite American history; I guess that's where you got your idea of the "Japs" being "savages." They were a dangerous, but defeated enemy.

Hiroshima: Quotes

"During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'."

- Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate For Change, pg. 380

PatriotsReign

Patters, most people would agree it's very LOW of you to use the catastrophe in Japan to make an idiotic past-tense political point.

Why did you do that?

No matter what your political POV, anyone would view the fact you posted an entire thread in an attempt to link this tragedy to something that is irrelevant.

That's pretty sad on your part.

Hang your head in shame...

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Patters

I'm not sure what your point is, PR. My point was that the threat of radiation poisoning must be doubly traumatizing to the Japanese because of what happened in WWII. I'm not sure why you can't see the relationship between the two events. I don't think it's difficult at all. Do you not consider nuclear war an atrocity?