Gainzo

We live in the most violent industrial nation in the World. The USA, unfortunately, leads the industrial world in murders, rapes, violent crimes, etc.

Why is that? The UK, Australia, and every other industrial nation doesn't even come close when in comes to those stats. Any thoughts on this?

chicowalker

That doesn't sound right -- what is your source, and how are they defining industrial nations?

Nikolai

The first thing to do would be to provide a source. Are you using Census stats, FBI stats, UN stats for international rates, etc.? I'm not trying to be difficult, but a frame of reference would be helpful.

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Nikolai

A good question. Russia is pretty damned industrialized, and I know for a fact they have much higher crime rates, across the board.

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“On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson..they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sacks last season in the pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon.”

reflexblue

Unions............

Gainzo

I went to the FBI site but this link isn't working FBI — Preliminary Semiannual Uniform Crime Report, January-June, 2010

How any American can say that this isn't the most dangerous Country in the World is beyond me.

There is a lot of bad stuff going on here

chicowalker

Maybe because some of us have been to other places that seemed that they would be worse?

Since you're saying it is, you should be able to supply a source for your claim rather than express your bewilderment that anybody might disagree.

And you're now saying most dangerous in the world -- not industrialized. maybe that was a slip?

Regardless, I've been to parts of Africa that certainly seemed worse. and Central America. And I don't know whether Australia is truly an industrial nation (again, just wondering about your definition). Nikolai brings up Russia.


Sure, in absolute terms. We're a pretty big country.

In relative terms? Don't know -- need to see some data and figure out what we're actually talking about.

I know I've lived in 4 major cities, a couple suburban areas and a couple rural areas, and I've never been a victim of a violent crime (knock on wood). A friend was murdered many years ago. A few friends were mugged when we were living in NYC years ago.

Sadly, the crime I know of most is date rape -- several women I've known were raped in their teens and early 20s by classmates or other dates.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Double post - sorry

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Some stats on murder to get ya started:

The US homicide rate, which has declined substantially since 1991, is still among the highest in the industrialized world. There were 17,034 murders in the United States in 2006[28] (666,160 murders from 1960 to 1996).[29] In 2004, there were 5.5 homicides for every 100,000 persons, roughly three times as high as Canada (1.9) and six times as high as Germany (0.9).Most industrialized countries had homicide rates below the 2.5 mark

Crime in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=699

Rape statistics:


Rank Countries Amount

# 1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people

# 2 Seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people

# 3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people

# 4 Montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people

# 5 Canada: 0.733089 per 1,000 people

# 6 Jamaica: 0.476608 per 1,000 people

# 7 Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people

# 8 Dominica: 0.34768 per 1,000 people

# 9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people

# 10 Iceland: 0.246009 per 1,000 people

# 11 Papua New Guinea: 0.233544 per 1,000 people

# 12 New Zealand: 0.213383 per 1,000 people

# 13 United Kingdom: 0.142172 per 1,000 people

# 14 Spain: 0.140403 per 1,000 people

# 15 France: 0.139442 per 1,000 people

# 16 Korea, South: 0.12621 per 1,000 people

# 17 Mexico: 0.122981 per 1,000 people

# 18 Norway: 0.120836 per 1,000 people

# 19 Costa Rica: 0.118277 per 1,000 people

# 20 Venezuela: 0.115507 per 1,000 people

# 21 Finland: 0.110856 per 1,000 people

# 22 Netherlands: 0.100445 per 1,000 people

# 23 Denmark: 0.0914948 per 1,000 people

# 24 Germany: 0.0909731 per 1,000 people

# 25 Bulgaria: 0.0795973 per 1,000 people

# 26 Chile: 0.0782179 per 1,000 people

# 27 Thailand: 0.0626305 per 1,000 people

# 28 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0623785 per 1,000 people

# 29 Poland: 0.062218 per 1,000 people

# 30 Sri Lanka: 0.0599053 per 1,000 people

# 31 Hungary: 0.0588588 per 1,000 people

# 32 Estonia: 0.0547637 per 1,000 people

# 33 Ireland: 0.0542829 per 1,000 people

# 34 Switzerland: 0.0539458 per 1,000 people

# 35 Belarus: 0.0514563 per 1,000 people

# 36 Uruguay: 0.0512295 per 1,000 people

# 37 Lithuania: 0.0508757 per 1,000 people

# 38 Malaysia: 0.0505156 per 1,000 people

# 39 Romania: 0.0497089 per 1,000 people

# 40 Czech Republic: 0.0488234 per 1,000 people

# 41 Russia: 0.0486543 per 1,000 people

# 42 Latvia: 0.0454148 per 1,000 people

# 43 Moldova: 0.0448934 per 1,000 people

# 44 Colombia: 0.0433254 per 1,000 people

http://paandu.com/report-crime/sex-c...ntry-australia

IcyPatriot

Loons ............