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Ok. I went back and looked at Reflexblue's quote.
I missed the entirety of the statement, that is, the qualifier indicating in the U.S.
But the US is a very large Christian population so of course with all the social upheaval that has occurred in my lifetime there will be bound to be misguided Christians doing terrible things in the name of their misguided perception of their own belief system.
As far as the KKK goes...well there is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. BTW Reflexblue, you do realize the KKK hates pretty much everybody that isn't white, especially Catholics.
But for all the self described Christians in this country, I still doubt they are responsible for more deaths than the Muslims on our own soil. There is that one big one that got over 3,000 of us alone. Oh and btw, we don't have intrusive security policies at the airports because of Christian terrorism.
But the numbers therein would be closer to what you inferred so I will have to retreat from my initial reply.
But I still maintain that Christianity isn't even close to Islam in terms of terrorism, bigotry and actual dead bodies, globally and historically speaking.
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Bite on what? Theres nothing to bite on. If you had a solid argument you would have posted it. Kings shtick is hysteria and fear mongering.
Bite on the galactic stupidity of the constant attempt to paint Christianity as not only as bad as Islam, but in fact worse. Explains the massive immigration from countries that are predominantly the former to predominantly the latter, right?
Ok. I went back and looked at Reflexblue's quote.
I missed the entirety of the statement, that is, the qualifier indicating in the U.S.
But the US is a very large Christian population so of course with all the social upheaval that has occurred in my lifetime there will be bound to be misguided Christians doing terrible things in the name of their misguided perception of their own belief system.
As far as the KKK goes...well there is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. BTW Reflexblue, you do realize the KKK hates pretty much everybody that isn't white, especially Catholics.
But for all the self described Christians in this country, I still doubt they are responsible for more deaths than the Muslims on our own soil. There is that one big one that got over 3,000 of us alone. Oh and btw, we don't have intrusive security policies at the airports because of Christian terrorism.
But the numbers therein would be closer to what you inferred so I will have to retreat from my initial reply.
But I still maintain that Christianity isn't even close to Islam in terms of terrorism, bigotry and actual dead bodies, globally and historically speaking.
I dunno, I think the KKK looks at their history laughs at a mere 3000....but I think they are motivated by the same kind of hate. The difference I think is radical Islam has always used their perverted version of their religion to justify their terror and the KKK figured out that they had to grab on to it in order to to be accepted by more main stream people.
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Bite on the galactic stupidity of the constant attempt to paint Christianity as not only as bad as Islam, but in fact worse. Explains the massive immigration from countries that are predominantly the former to predominantly the latter, right?
That really doesn't have anything to do with it, B5.
King is talking about the danger of Muslim Terrorist here in America. Yes, it's a danger - yes there are Muslim terrorist groups on the "Terrorism Watch List." There are also dozens of homegrown terrorists on the "Terrorism Watch List," some of them connected to Christianity, some not. Regardless, I fail to see any committees being formed to study the danger they might produce.
I dunno, I think the KKK looks at their history laughs at a mere 3000....but I they are motivated by the same kind of hate. The difference I think is radical Islam has always used their perverted version of their religion to justify their terror and the KKK figured out that they had to grab on to it in order to to be accepted by more main stream people.
Turns out your right as I just googled for the information.
Turns out the estimates range in the millions dating back to it's inception.
But I just can't look at the KKK as a Christian organization because Christianity, for me or as I have been taught, is about love for yourself, your neighbor, your family and even your enemies. Not just saying it but showing it by going the extra mile and carry a burden to ease a brother or sister.
KKK just doesn't fit in. Truly an ignorant lot.
That really doesn't have anything to do with it, B5.
King is talking about the danger of Muslim Terrorist here in America. Yes, it's a danger - yes there are Muslim terrorist groups on the "Terrorism Watch List." There are also dozens of homegrown terrorists on the "Terrorism Watch List," some of them connected to Christianity, some not. Regardless, I fail to see any committees being formed to study the danger they might produce.
The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in “rightwing extremist activity,” saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.
A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines “rightwing extremism in the United States” as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
“It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” the warning says.
..Ok, I get it. Peter King is the worst person in the world. Let's all get that out of the way. ....
Did I say anything like that?
If you care to refute my comment, feel free.
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... Any comments on the op-ed piece written by the Muslim, ....
It was a good piece.
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...(who by the way is giving King very little credibility)? ....
Are you sure you don't want to just dismiss that?
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... Is this guy an Islamophobe for calling leadership to do their part too?....
I don't think he is calling on Islam leadership to do anything, is he? I thought he was calling on all Muslims to teach the aspects of their religion tjhat stresses peace and love. I don't think anybody would argue with that -- whether you're Muslim, Christian, atheist, Jewish, whatever.
But asa for your misguided attempt to compare the author with King:
Does he have a track record of being an Islamaphobe?
Does he acknowledge the many ways that Muslims clearly are not a threat to America?
Does he have a track record of supporting the IRA?
Sorry, but King spearheading this isn't, and shouldn't be, looked at in a vaccuum.
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...I'll leave us again with what he hopes to get out of this...
"He" being the author, that is (not king)
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...We need to stop the mudslinging and wake the blank up.
Sorry, calling people -- particularly our so-called "leaders" -- out for their bigotry and hypocrisy isn't mudslinging.
Do you want to defend his bigotry toward Muslims? The hypocrisy behind his support for the IRA while condemning Muslims?
I dunno, I think the KKK looks at their history laughs at a mere 3000....but I think they are motivated by the same kind of hate. The difference I think is radical Islam has always used their perverted version of their religion to justify their terror and the KKK figured out that they had to grab on to it in order to to be accepted by more main stream people.
I don't know the history of the KKK, so I could be wrong, but I don't think they had to do much outreach to be accepted by the mainstream. I think they were the mainstream.
Turns out your right as I just googled for the information.
Turns out the estimates range in the millions dating back to it's inception.
But I just can't look at the KKK as a Christian organization because Christianity, for me or as I have been taught, is about love for yourself, your neighbor, your family and even your enemies. Not just saying it but showing it by going the extra mile and carry a burden to ease a brother or sister.
KKK just doesn't fit in. Truly an ignorant lot.
Agreed with your take here re many Christians, particularly today, and the KKK. Two things, though.
First, in its heyday, many Christians who would have agreed with your take on Christianity -- and probably acted that way towards other whites -- not oinly were OK w/the KKK but were probably members.
Second, don't you think many Muslims, especially American Muslims, feel exactly the same way towards Islam Extremists? I think that's something King and the rest of the Islam haters so often ignore.
I don't know the history of the KKK, so I could be wrong, but I don't think they had to do much outreach to be accepted by the mainstream. I think they were the mainstream.
KKK was the remnants of the Confederacy.
You know...the South. I don't think the people were drawn to it for it's Christian message but rather for it's anti Yankee sentiment and plans for further rebellion.