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Old 03-10-2011, 05:35 PM   #31
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This war on the middle class by the ideological right is probably better for the Democrats than the Republicans, but only time will tell.

I wonder if Harry Boy, who once said that he turned against the Democrats after Carter deregulated trucking, is please with the right wing's attempts to decimate the working people of America by reducing their clout.
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:59 PM   #32
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Back on topic: Does anyone know the $$ in Wisconsin? Did Walker cut taxes for employers?
It pretty much depends on who you talk to and where you read. Here are a few figures I've found so far:

Apparently there is an expected 2 year (other sources claim it is a 3 year projection) of a $3.6 billion dollars. This year (for one year) the expected shortfall is $137 million. (I do not understand nor can I explain the huge difference a year or so can apparently make.)

The governor released his two-year spending plan in part to support his argument that public-worker concessions are essential to confront a projected $3.6 billion budget shortfall.

The budget will put tremendous pressure on schools and local governments, which will be asked to shoulder huge cuts without raising property taxes to make up the difference.

Walker's budget includes a nearly[b] 9 percent cut in aid to schools, which would amount to a reduction of nearly $900 million
. The governor also proposed requiring school districts to reduce their property tax authority by an average of $550 per pupil -- a move that makes it more difficult for schools to make up the lost money.

Additionally, cities would get nearly $60 million less in aid, an 8.8 percent cut. Counties would lose more than $36 million, a 24 percent reduction. They would not be allowed to increase property taxes except to account for new construction.

Walker estimates that his controls on property taxes would save $736 over the next two years for the owner of a home valued at the median price of $161,300.

He proposed a $500 million cut to Medicaid, which would be achieved through a number of changes that include increasing co-payments and deductibles and requiring participants in SeniorCare to be enrolled in Medicare Part D, too.

Here's the good part:

Walker asked for $82 million in tax cuts, including an expanded exclusion for capital gains realized on investments made in Wisconsin-based businesses. The Legislature previously approved more than $117 million in Walker-backed tax cuts that take effect later this year.The budget also cuts funding at most state agencies, by 10 percent, except for salary and benefits.

In addition to the bargaining rights changes, the bill designed to fill this year's projected $137 million deficit called for refinancing state debt to save $165 million[/I]

WI Budget repair bill: Gov. Walker unveils budget plan at Wisconsin State Capitol - WITI

Call me crazy, but if this year they are $137 million in deficit and Walker has already given more than $117 million in tax cuts (to the wealthy) and is asking for another $87million more - wouldn't the combined amount saved by NOT giving tax cuts to the rich have more than made up the deficit now being taken out of the hide of school children and Medicare/Medicaid recipients?

Or am I just that naive?
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:05 PM   #33
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Thats why you have per diem people you can call if you need an extra body. They don't get bene's nor do they get over time.
assuming they are available when you need them -- and you still have costs of finding them, making sure they're qualified and hirijg them in the first place, making sure they stay properly certified / insured, get them paid on a 1-time basis, etc.

In other words, everything has its costs.
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Lowest I could find his Approval (non-moveon.org) was 44%, That's not going to get you recalled.
what planet do you live on? This Rasmussen poll is all over the place.

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Rasmussen poll has Governor Scott Walker's disapproval rating near 60% - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com


A new poll from Rasmussen Reports shows that nearly 60% of Wisconsin's likely voters now disapprove of Governor Scott Walker's job performance.
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Wisconsin Governor Walker: 43% Approval Rating - Rasmussen Reports
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Seventy-three percent (73%) of Wisconsin Republicans approve of the job Walker is doing. Eighty-nine percent (89%) of the state's Democrats and 56% of voters not affiliated with either of the major parties disapprove
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I imagine his numbers are NOT gunna go up anytime soon.

Dude won the election with only 52% of the vote.....
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:39 PM   #35
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what planet do you live on? This Rasmussen poll is all over the place.

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Rasmussen poll has Governor Scott Walker's disapproval rating near 60% - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com


A new poll from Rasmussen Reports shows that nearly 60% of Wisconsin's likely voters now disapprove of Governor Scott Walker's job performance.
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Wisconsin Governor Walker: 43% Approval Rating - Rasmussen Reports
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Seventy-three percent (73%) of Wisconsin Republicans approve of the job Walker is doing. Eighty-nine percent (89%) of the state's Democrats and 56% of voters not affiliated with either of the major parties disapprove
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I imagine his numbers are NOT gunna go up anytime soon.

Dude won the election with only 52% of the vote.....



Given the beating Walker took in the MS his numbers aren't bad. This poll was also before he won the battle with the Unions.

I would note that Walker's numbers per Rasmussen are better than Obama's numbers with all the support he gets in the MSM.
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...I would note that Walker's numbers per Rasmussen are better than Obama's numbers with all the support he gets in the MSM.
That depends on which numbers you look at.
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what planet do you live on? This Rasmussen poll is all over the place.

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Rasmussen poll has Governor Scott Walker's disapproval rating near 60% - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com


A new poll from Rasmussen Reports shows that nearly 60% of Wisconsin's likely voters now disapprove of Governor Scott Walker's job performance.
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Wisconsin Governor Walker: 43% Approval Rating - Rasmussen Reports
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Seventy-three percent (73%) of Wisconsin Republicans approve of the job Walker is doing. Eighty-nine percent (89%) of the state's Democrats and 56% of voters not affiliated with either of the major parties disapprove
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I imagine his numbers are NOT gunna go up anytime soon.

Dude won the election with only 52% of the vote.....
Hello, 43 is not 39!

I guess you favor getting rid of Obamacare because poll after poll shows that it is unpopular? And he only got 52% of the vote, can we recall his sorry ass?
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I think Ronald Reagan says it best. He really was quite a leader, and the right and tea party are right to look to his words for guidance and ideological direction.

YouTube - Ronald Reagan In Support of Unions and Collective Bargaining.
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I think Ronald Reagan says it best. He really was quite a leader, and the right and tea party are right to look to his words for guidance and ideological direction.

YouTube - Ronald Reagan In Support of Unions and Collective Bargaining.
He supported them because our tax dollars covered their costs. He would NOT have supported raising taxes to cover their costs.

Maybe Reagan was wrong?
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That depends on which numbers you look at.



I am looking t the same polling company HD is citing to say that Walker is unpopular.

BTW the last pol to stand up to public employee unions Reagan, was unpopular for a short time after the Patco strike and we know how that turned out.
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