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Old 03-05-2011, 04:06 AM   #31
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Because everything is the fault of straight white male Christians, din't ya know that?
How weird that you should make that leap, WP. Are you unaware that all of the "Christian only" groups that I've mentioned also includes fairly equal numbers of women, blacks, and Hispanics?

And yes, they even include gays.

http://www.rainbowchristians.com/

Or do the Christians you know not embrace those people?

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Old 03-05-2011, 05:53 AM   #32
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Forgive me for not shouting as loudly as you, Harry.

What about

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or that genre of music known as Christian Rock

or the political group known as the Iowa Christian Alliance

Why are you not railing about them? Are they not bigoted by your standards?

"CHRISTIAN" has nothing to do with RACE.

Black Entertainment does NOT = Christian Entertainment.

The only comparison would be....

Black Entertainment = White Entertainment.

In no place on this earth did Christian ever imply White. As you confirmed in your post...

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Are you unaware that all of the "Christian only" groups that I've mentioned also includes fairly equal numbers of women, blacks, and Hispanics?

And yes, they even include gays.
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:58 AM   #33
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But racism isn't about black vs. white, so when you put these numbers before us;

Household:
White - 54,461
Black - 32,584
Latino - 38,039
Asian - 65,469

It shows that Asian-American households are leading the nation in income. How did they get to the top? After all, Asian as a race is more of a minority than African-Americans. Blacks outnumber Asians almost 4-1.

Do Asians get fewer "Points" than African-Americans? Do African-Americans get "the most points" because somehow society has shown they are the most oppressed race? Aren't Latino's pissed off about that?

Unless someone changed RACISM to only refer to the plight of African-Americans...Did I miss that announcement?
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These threads are just about always charged with opinions. Since this place is in the main a bunch of white guys, it's not surprising that attitudes skew toward those that paint whites as having no particular priviledge. Let's look at some objective facts:

Income by race:
Notes on income, race and household types in 2009 | internet128.com

Household:
White - 54,461
Black - 32,584
Latino - 38,039
Asian - 65,469

Per capita:
White - 30,941
Black - 18,135
Latino - 15,063
Asian - 30,653

Composition of population, in millions (for those who still wonder whether whites are a minority... not yet, skippy. And when Whites become one of several minorities, they will still be by far the largest.)

White 197
Black 39
Latino 49
Asian 14

I guess Blacks and Latinos aren't doing a very good job of keeping the poor beleaguered oppressed white man under their collective thumbs. Life expectancy, infant mortality, and other health outcomes also favor whites.

Here are the Black CEOs of Fortune 500 companies. There are ten of them. Perhaps they are the ones responsible for keeping the White people down:

Black Fortune 500 CEO's: Black Entrepreneurs, Black CEO, Black Executive, Black Billionaires, Entrepreneur Profile

One of them's even a woman.

How about unemployment?

http://4909e99d35cada63e7f757471b724..._july_2010.pdf

Go to page 2.

Unemployment among
Whites: 8.8%
Blacks: 15.5%

Come on guys. Losing some power - some fraction of the presumption of priviledge - is being portrayed as having lost all power. Evidently, the psychology of a decrease in power is a very scary thing to some. If what you are used to seeing is a world where you can assume the white guy gets the job, every time a black guy gets a job you think it is an affirmative action hire. I am sure from the other side, it looks like you must be seriously kicking ***** and taking names if you beat the odds of really making it as a black man (or woman) in America.

By every statistical measure, whites are better off in America than Blacks or Hispanics. And if you really want some scary sh1t, check out single moms' monetary stats.

So there are some objective stats. Do they really indicate an oppressed white minority (or more accurately, majority)?

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Old 03-05-2011, 06:28 AM   #34
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"CHRISTIAN" has nothing to do with RACE.

Black Entertainment does NOT = Christian Entertainment.

The only comparison would be....

Black Entertainment = White Entertainment.

In no place on this earth did Christian ever imply White. As you confirmed in your post...
Just as Harry is trying to point out that he thinks "BLACK" in a title signifies racism (which is a form of discrimination) and oppression I am pointing out that (by his terms and standards) "CHRISTIAN" in a title would also signify bigotry which is just another form of discrimination and oppression of the same type and magnitude.

If someone is worried about discrimination which celebrates one aspect of a life to the point of exclusion (which is oppression of all those excluded) then I fail to see how they cannot be concerned about other forms of discrimination which do the same thing.

Why is Harry not upset about The Woman's Caucus or the various other "Woman's Groups" or about the various Chinese American Associations which populate politics and business associations?

Besides, I am pretty sure that "Black Entertainers" much like "White Entertainers" do not exclude members of other races from attending their shows, buying their records or watching their movies. So where are they oppressing whites?
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MrsP...I am not and will not side with Harry because I actually have no issues with the various groups that exist in America. I think they represent what America is and should be.

I was merely disagreeing with your comparison of Black Entertainment vs Christian "whatever". Nothing more...my panties weren't all in a bunch....

at least not yet!

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Just as Harry is trying to point out that he thinks "BLACK" in a title signifies racism (which is a form of discrimination) and oppression I am pointing out that (by his terms and standards) "CHRISTIAN" in a title would also signify bigotry which is just another form of discrimination and oppression of the same type and magnitude.

If someone is worried about discrimination which celebrates one aspect of a life to the point of exclusion (which is oppression of all those excluded) then I fail to see how they cannot be concerned about other forms of discrimination which do the same thing.

Why is Harry not upset about The Woman's Caucus or the various other "Woman's Groups" or about the various Chinese American Associations which populate politics and business associations?

Besides, I am pretty sure that "Black Entertainers" much like "White Entertainers" do not exclude members of other races from attending their shows, buying their records or watching their movies. So where are they oppressing whites?
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What's religion got to do with anything in this thread?
It's all she could find, we all know there is still plenty of Racism out there to go around for everybody.
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Forgive me for not shouting as loudly as you, Harry.

What about

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or that genre of music known as Christian Rock

or the political group known as the Iowa Christian Alliance

Why are you not railing about them? Are they not bigoted by your standards?
Thats religion, this isn't about religion it's about "TWO WORDS" Black & White, you put the word WHITE in front of anything and it immediately becomes Racist you put the word BLACK in front of something it suddenly becomes OK....

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IS AFFIRMATIVE ACTION STILL NEEDED?
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Harry you didn't watch Planet of the Apes? Great series of movies ...

The humans ... mostly white were oppressed by the apes ... chimps and orangutans.

Actually ... man ruined the planet ... nuclear war happened and the apes took over.

Not to far fetched actually as we are on a path to ruin this planet ... closer everyday.

Watched them all, great movies especially compared to the crap they make today.
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Thats religion, this isn't about religion it's about "TWO WORDS" Black & White, you put the word WHITE in front of anything and it immediately becomes Racist you put the word BLACK in front of something it suddenly becomes OK....

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I honestly don't know why I try to reason with you, Harry, you're a totally unreasonable man. I don't think you even have it in you to try.

I'm merely trying to point out that discrimination and oppression don't rest on words like "black" and "white," to most of us.

Do you object to "Chinatown?" Last I heard there was no big movement in Maryland to change the name of "Germantown," or for Georgia to change the name of "White Plains." I, as an white Irish girl, have no problem visiting any of them - nor do I think they want to exclude me from doing so. It's an identifier. I don't feel excluded or oppressed because congress has a black caucus - no more than I feel excluded by the Tea Party having a Tea Party Caucus or the female caucus having a Woman's Caucus. Why shouldn't they band together for their own common good?

It is always implied that majority rules....and whites are the majority. It is only natural that those not in the majority seek to identify themselves in some manner in an attempt to assure that their voices be heard, too. Why would I, or anyone else, feel threatened or oppressed by it? It should be fairly hard to oppress a majority, shouldn't it?

Why are you threatened by "Black entertainment?" You're not forced to watch it, you're not forbidden to watch it. It's a brand of entertainment just like "Political humor" or "love story," or "cop show." It might be geared towards a specific audience but what isn't?

Once again - the title of this thread contains two words - racially and oppressed. People of all colors (including white) can feel oppressed by discriminations other than racial discrimination. Christian discrimination would be one of those things. Sexual discrimination would be another. It's not always just about you, Harry, no matter how you'd like it to be so.
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I honestly don't know why I try to reason with you, Harry, you're a totally unreasonable man. I don't think you even have it in you to try.

I'm merely trying to point out that discrimination and oppression don't rest on words like "black" and "white," to most of us.

Do you object to "Chinatown?" Last I heard there was no big movement in Maryland to change the name of "Germantown," or for Georgia to change the name of "White Plains." I, as an white Irish girl, have no problem visiting any of them - nor do I think they want to exclude me from doing so. It's an identifier. I don't feel excluded or oppressed because congress has a black caucus - no more than I feel excluded by the Tea Party having a Tea Party Caucus or the female caucus having a Woman's Caucus. Why shouldn't they band together for their own common good?

It is always implied that majority rules....and whites are the majority. It is only natural that those not in the majority seek to identify themselves in some manner in an attempt to assure that their voices be heard, too. Why would I, or anyone else, feel threatened or oppressed by it? It should be fairly hard to oppress a majority, shouldn't it?

Why are you threatened by "Black entertainment?" You're not forced to watch it, you're not forbidden to watch it. It's a brand of entertainment just like "Political humor" or "love story," or "cop show." It might be geared towards a specific audience but what isn't?

Once again - the title of this thread contains two words - racially and oppressed. People of all colors (including white) can feel oppressed by discriminations other than racial discrimination. Christian discrimination would be one of those things. Sexual discrimination would be another. It's not always just about you, Harry, no matter how you'd like it to be so.
In my simple mind the way things are racially in this country I would be very, very careful on how I use the word "White".

Picture this in the Republican Senate "White Caucus"................
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