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Old 02-23-2011, 11:49 AM   #1
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Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes

As the nation focuses on the efforts of Governor Scott Walker to take away collective bargaining rights from public employees in Wisconsin, new information is coming to light that reveals what is truly going on here.

Koch-backed groups like Americans for Prosperity, the Cato Institute, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and the Reason Foundation have long taken a very antagonistic view toward public-sector unions. Several of these groups have urged the eradication of these unions. The Kochs also invited Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, an anti-union outfit, to a June 2010 confab in Aspen, Colorado;
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:17 PM   #2
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The Koch Brothers are the new bogeymen, I guess.

Cool story.

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Lipton leaves that claim hanging, and never tells his readers how much the Koch PAC contributed to Walker's campaign. In fact, the total was $43,000. That was out of more than $11 million that Walker raised, and $37.4 million that was spent, altogether, on the 2010 race for Governor of Wisconsin. Which means that people associated with Koch Industries contributed a whopping one-tenth of one percent of what was spent on last year's election. So why is the Times running scare headlines about the "Billionaire Brothers' Money?"
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So, is Koch Industries one of the largest sources of political cash, in Wisconsin or elsewhere? Not even close. In fact, nearly all of the top moneybags in politics are on the Democratic side of the aisle. Click to enlarge this screen shot from Open Secrets, which adds up contributions for the election cycles from 1989 to the present:
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Good for the Koch brothers. Glad to see them backing a candidate who is willing to live up to his promises.

Keep telling us who they donate to it will give me an idea of who to support. Sorry to see they are not donating to Heritage Foundation and Von Mises Institute in addition to the other fine think tanks they support.
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The Koch Brothers are the new bogeymen, I guess.

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Power Line - Who Are the Demons Here?
NEW Boogey men?

POWERLINE?

anyway...I wonder what would happen if the billions spend by the Koch brothers, PACs, and Unions were spent on healthcare and schools?

we'd probably not have any of these budget shortfalls.
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anyway...I wonder what would happen if the billions spend by the Koch brothers, PACs, and Unions were spent on healthcare and schools?

we'd probably not have any of these budget shortfalls.


The left wants to Alinsky the Koch Bros, they are big boys who can take care of themselves. As to more $$$ for schools, won't make any difference. The problem is not money.
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NEW Boogey men?

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Yeah, this is pure FUD.

If you look at the link about campaign contributions you will that it is from Open Secrets. Is Open Secrets illegitimate if a right-wing blog links to them?

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anyway...I wonder what would happen if the billions spend by the Koch brothers, PACs, and Unions were spent on healthcare and schools?

we'd probably not have any of these budget shortfalls.
Setting aside the state deficits, the federal deficit (over $1 trillion) dwarfs the total spent on political campaigns. Heck, it might even exceed the cumulative amount spent on every U.S. campaign since the founding.
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Yeah, this is pure FUD.

If you look at the link about campaign contributions you will that it is from Open Secrets. Is Open Secrets illegitimate if a right-wing blog links to them?



Setting aside the state deficits, the federal deficit (over $1 trillion) dwarfs the total spent on political campaigns. Heck, it might even exceed the cumulative amount spent on every U.S. campaign since the founding.
Not sure its as small a contribution as you think. You need to include Lobbies, 527s, interest groups...etc.

it sure as heck looks like a lot according to open secrets ... 3.4 billion by lobyists alone in 2010. all house and senate members put together for 2010 = 2 trillion

thats a lot of scratch.

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Its funny how all these politicians complain about "Spending"

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Not sure its as small a contribution as you think. You need to include Lobbies, 527s, interest groups...etc.

it sure as heck looks like a lot according to open secrets ... 3.4 billion by lobyists alone in 2010. all house and senate members put together for 2010 = 2 trillion

thats a lot of scratch.

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Do you mean 2 Billion? I dont' see any trillions on that site.

Here are the previous six election cycles:
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Cycle	 Total Cost of Election
2008*    $5,285,680,883
2006 	 $2,852,658,140
2004*    $4,147,304,003
2002 	 $2,181,682,066
2000*    $3,082,340,937
1998 	 $1,618,936,265
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$16 billion. You would need 60 times that to cover just the Federal deficit.

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Do you mean 2 Billion? I dont' see any trillions on that site.

Here are the previous six election cycles:
Code:
Cycle	 Total Cost of Election
2008*    $5,285,680,883
2006 	 $2,852,658,140
2004*    $4,147,304,003
2002 	 $2,181,682,066
2000*    $3,082,340,937
1998 	 $1,618,936,265
$16 billion. You would need 60 times that to cover just the Federal deficit.
2 billion is correct from individuals and PACs.....I added totals and party #s...quick math isnt pretty. The stats also don't show national contributions to the DNC and RNC...this is strictly 2 billion for congress in 2010.

I'm just wondering if all of these crapheads who tell me that government is the problem, and we need to reighn in spending, aren't spending too much, campaigning too long, or taking in too much money.

2 billion/year is nothing to sneeze at.

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