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Old 02-23-2011, 09:48 AM   #11
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Thats easy for you to say.
I've got some out in my garage.
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House Republican critics of the agency were citing the spill regulation and proposing bills to force EPA's hand on an exclusion as far back as mid-2010 (E&E Daily, May 28, 2010).

But President Obama's recent drive to eliminate unnecessary or overlapping federal regulations, punctuated by a State of the Union quip about salmon, appears to have driven the milk-spill exclusion into the mainstream.

A Wall Street Journal editorial two days later fanned the flames with what Detlefsen described as "some inaccuracies," including a contention that EPA was planning to apply SPCC rules to dairies, rather than grant an exemption.

With a final exemption for milk producers expected from EPA within weeks, the dairy industry is hoping to see language from the agency that generally tracks with the original proposed rule issued in January 2009. In fact, quite a few farms within their ranks are still expecting to be subject to spill-planning rules because they store fuel or oil elsewhere on their property.
Anti-Reg Republicans Crying Over Spilled Milk - NYTimes.com

Anywho, it sounds like it's a non-issue now:

No more crying: Spilled milk rule is changed
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I've got some out in my garage.
You don't say, you lucky dog. Hey buddy do you have any spare Voer? Ill gladly pay you next Tuesday for some Voer today.
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Glad someone is looking to rein an out of control EPA the point is of course they would do this in the first place.
But Sowell said.. sad that the right chooses not to vette their stories and just follows along.
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The question is how many other insane regulations are they putting out each day?
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Im glad someone is reining in the EPA, i'm sick and tired of breathing clean air and drinking clean water.
Honestagawd! EPA and getting out of Nam are the only things the neocon darling Nixon got right. The EPA and controls on industrial toxins saved this country's environment and their scientific enrichment has been incalculable.

Yes. Their funding should be eliminated.

What the hell are you people thinking??
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Honestagawd! EPA and getting out of Nam are the only things the neocon darling Nixon got right. The EPA and controls on industrial toxins saved this country's environment and their scientific enrichment has been incalculable.

Yes. Their funding should be eliminated.

What the hell are you people thinking??
Nixon was a Liberal, (thats what they say) anything Nixon did must be Bad.
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The question is how many other insane regulations are they putting out each day?
No, actually the question is how many other insane regulations are people claiming the EPA is putting out each day when, in truth, they are not?

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No, actually the question is how many other insane regulations are people claiming the EPA is putting out each day when, in truth, they are not?

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The EPA originally had proposed regulating spilled milk the same as an oil spill because it contains a certain percentage of animal fat, which is a nonpetroleum oil, Gibson said.
Dairy farmers would have been responsible for developing a spill prevention plan for milk equivalent to an oil spill prevention plan.

They were planning to do it until 'caught'. How many more hair brained regs aren't caught?
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They were planning to do it until 'caught'. How many more hair brained regs aren't caught?
No, they weren't. They've planned to give them an exemption all along. See Darryl's link:

A Wall Street Journal editorial two days later fanned the flames with what Detlefsen described as "some inaccuracies," including a contention that EPA was planning to apply SPCC rules to dairies, rather than grant an exemption.

Besides, it isn't like this is something new - it began in the 70s and the "milk rule" was part of Bush's regime.

But the back story behind the milk rule is more complicated, dating back to the implementation of Clean Water Act mandates for spill-response planning in the 1970s and flaring up under the George W. Bush administration's EPA, according to dairy industry officials. While milk producers are not declaring victory until EPA issues a final exemption for their businesses, the agency has fully excused dairies from the requirement to plan for spills on their property.

Milk producers first became aware that SPCC regulations could hit their industry during the George W. Bush administration, when EPA raised a concern that the animal fat in milk might put it in the same category as oil, the dairy representatives recalled.

Under existing law, Detlefsen explained, the concept of "what is oil was always sort of ambiguous. I don't mean to make a pun, but it was a slippery issue."

Given that uncertainty, the dairy industry pressed for and won a proposed rule exempting milk storage and containers from the spill-planning rules. In an unfortunate twist of timing, however, the proposed rule was issued the week before Bush left office and became part of a broader freeze of pending regulations that typically occurs when a new administration takes over.
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